The new S will be a K ...

[Chris Geuting]

Hallo
This is true but not to confuse you it will
still have 2 cylinders and will be a boxer-
twin as the first model of the new generation will be the K25GS or R1200GS
which will debut in Southafrica in January
04.According to the new BMW Motoboss BMW
will be still strongly committed to the
segments were BMW is strong (sport/tourers
and GS) and will enter with new machines
where BMW is not so strong yet;sport and
naked bikes.
So there will be a new S;lighter and stronger!!
It will be smoother too.
Fro the first pictures it looks like the
tranny will be slower internally because
the reardriveunit has a much smaller diameter,maybe even a counterbalancer in
the engine.Until January it remains to be
seen if the stick with the current valve-
train which is good for 8500rpm and they
optimise it (heads,bigger throttle bodies,
lighter components) and maybe add a super-
charger to gain horsepower/torque at current
rpm levels or go with a true ohc valvetrain
that permits higher rpm/hp levels but probably will build wider...To offset this
they could mount the engine higher or
decrease the stroke but with a bigger bore
it would not be good for torque and
smoothness.
Pretty soon we will know if the changes
will be evolutionary or revolutionary but
the good news is there will be lighter,
more powerful bikes stll with a boxermotor
coming,pretty soon!
Exiting times
Chris

[Dan Greene]

Holy Mackerel! There sure are a lot of smart people on this board.

[CarlosT]

Holy mackerel is right...smells fishy...

[ckcarr]

If you are truly smart you preface your handle with "Dr."

[ErricZ]

I think if you are truly smart, you let the BBS software perform word-wrap as is it meant to. Sorry, couldn't hold back anymore ...

[Dan Greene]

I think I should clarify my comment. I was sincere. All this information about OHC valvetrains and bores and strokes is very impressive. It just takes someone a lot smarter than me to know what it all means. I just like to ride.

[Len]

Originally posted by Dan Greene
All this information about OHC valvetrains and bores and strokes is very impressive. I just like to ride.

Dan I'm with you, it don't amount to didly squat if all that tech rides bad.

[BMW Atlanta]

good point ckcarr c}:-P*

as for the new bikes, there will definitely be a new GS and maybe even a GS-SM(supermotard) But no real world info on the other models being redesigned for now.

[Chris Geuting]

Hi Bobby
The new bikes will follow in 6 month
increments like they did 10 years ago when
the RS was the first bike of the new
generation of boxers!And yes there will be
a new sportier S-Boxer according to the
new BMW-Motoboss in a recent MOTORRAD inter-
view who said that BMW will go with new
models in segments where BMW is not so strong right now;the sportbike and nakedbike
segment with each a Boxer and a multi cylinder bike...
Chris
PS:From the first picture releases of the
new 1200GS pretty much ALL will be new the
only thing that remains to be seen will be
the valvetrain;a optimised current one
where the sportbike could be supercharged
to make more power or a ohc valvetrain
allowing more rpm to make more power;in
January we have the answers...
Chris

[BMW Atlanta]

well chris, sounds great but what are your credentials? Everyone is speculating and I just had an official BMW visitor or two myself and was given a good idea of what to expect and what not to expect in South Africa as I have plane reservations already,........do you??????

[BMW Atlanta]

Oh and the whole "new S will be a K'' thing is way off base man. Its a project code name, has nothing to do with being a K designation. If you read BMW ON like 3 months ago you would have seen that BMW is known for assigning project names/codes for no good reason other then to throw everyone else out of the loop off. Boxers are "R" bikes and inlines are "K"s. Plain and simple, they are not revolutionizing their model branding/numbering. The new GS simply had a covert K25GS project code name.

[Chris Geuting]

Bobby,you did not get it...of course will the new S be no K the K only stands for Konzept.
So it will still be a boxer.
My credentials?I don't have any but you have
an advantage if you speak or in this case
can read german..."My" information comes
from MOTORRAD (german motomag)...
Chris

[Huggy70]

Here are some pictures of the new GS. The new Paralever can be seen, where the reaction arm is on top for more ground clearance.
Also the arm appears to be longer (and probably lighter because of a new aluminium conctruction).The gearbox is improved and should shift like butter for once.
The new cilinder heads can be seen, which are smaller and probably have a new combustion chamber with new valve angles.
BMW already said in a magazine that when using current new materials regarding valve springs higher rpm's could be optained.
And I think the new S gets an exciting, almost japanese like, frame...we have to wait
First the GS, than the S hopefully...

Hugo van Waaijen

[Huggy70]

[DanceswPavement]

How about it Bobby? Can you speak or "read" German? Surely Germans wouldn't lie! We will never invade Czechoslovakia!

[motoyoyo]

Originally posted by Chris Geuting
Bobby,you did not get it...of course will the new S be no K the K only stands for Konzept.

I guess you just like to stir things up Chris. Hey what's up with the Notepad text anyway? It seems different is just a way of life for some folks.

[roger albert]

The K stands for Kompakt

[AdamZ]

BMW have scheduled a press conference on Tuesday 16th Sept in Milan.

This seems in contradiction with their previous statements that they would NOT be making any announcement at Milan but would be waiting for year end.

[AdamZ]

duplication of above posting - sorry