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WHERE CAN i PURCHASE A POWERFILTER? i CANT SEEM TO FIND A SUPPLIER.
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Were and why is it called a Power Filter ? Does someone have dyno graphs some place ?
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The filter does flow quite a bit more than the stock filter or the stock filter K&N replacement. I got to play with all three filters on Chris' flow bench and there is a difference. The "PF" will flow about 20% more than the stock filter or the K&N direct replacment when installed. That does not mean you are going to get 20% more power though as there there are many other factors at work, cams, exhaust, duct used, etc..... that also limit flow. I can tell you that the "PF" has roughly 4 times the filter area of the stock filter and the K&N direct replacement has a roughly 80% the filter area of the stock one on account of the extra seal area that cuts into the filter element area. I measured the filters myself in an anal retentive quest for the truth... Eron |
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Half the people you know are below average. 2004 R1100SBX (Prep)/Ztechnik/Laser Dual Chip/SJ duct-filter |
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< The filter area really is very large on the standard filter
NO. The stock area is quite small, if compared to filters on similarly configured engines - which is the only meaningful comparison. The stock-size K&N seems pretty useless to me, other than maybe for K&N's marketing department. Similar flow (less area but lower restriction) and worse particulate performance. The only real user-side benefit is lower cost. Otoh, you'll probably need a valve job 10% sooner, so even that is questionable.
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I couldn't find the SJ Power Filter in Australia and I ordered direct from San Jose BMW (US$169 + Shipping of US$50, item was on back order for a few weeks). SJ BMW sourced a manufacturer for the holder, but the K&N filter is a standard car part, but K&N do not produce the whole assembly. Without Lennie's InDuct I don't think you would see a huge gain in airflow. The old bike did spin up quicker with all the mods I had on it (Staintunes, FIM 851 chip, InDuct and SJ Powerfilter), just waiting for a FIM chip for the twin spark and then I will start re-fitting the mods. ![]() Tom. ![]() |
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Another issue, What oil do you use for the K & N I have heard of a lot of different types , some much thinner than the K & N stuff .
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Good question on the separate parts purchase. I doubt it's worth SJBMW's time to do it separately (or possibly yours to find/crossreference the right unit to fit) but you could always inquire.
I just use the K&N oil. I've used others in a pinch. Wouldn't recommend anything lighter, but that's just my subjective opinion.
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