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Please re-read my last post.

My statement about AFR was for TUNING. The wide band sensor was designed to provide more precise emissions control which needs the greater range of AFR,
and a linear response curve, than for tuning. Also, the Bosch wide band sensor
is very sensitive and requires that the temperature be closely regulated for
proper results. This device is much more demanding in its operation than
the old standard O2 sensors. If you read the data sheet, Bosch requires that
the sensor be mounted in the exhaust a certain way, also.

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Yes TUNING, And wideband remains good (and industry standard) for that. Emissions control is handled (in basically all production cars) by narrow band sensors. Don't believe me. Just look at the fact that all tuning aides use wideband, and all cars use narrow band. How can you argue with that? Jeez. Let's debate whether the sky is pink or blue.

Yes, it's more demanding. Better instruments tend to be. Welcome to science 101. I've read the specs, I bet others here have too, and shockingly, so have the accomplished _practicing_ engineers who designed the LM1

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Just gimme my gizzmo and get bussy with some cool attachments to sell me!

Its gonna work fine.
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Have to love those consistent & intelligent responses!
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blah-blah,, blahblahblah, gimme my stuff and lets get on with it.
Banter, snicksnack, clack and yack.
Gimme something to start with, we can always upgarde later.
Roger, ya did good, do more!
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On my way to the UPS Store now guys.
They've shorted me one cable but I'll make that mine and have all of your orders out yet today and get my cable next week.

Anyway, you may end up with info/experience before me.
Especially if a certain ratty r80gs's electrical system keeps kicking my ass.
Intermittent break somewhere in the harness. WhineWhineWhine

grumble grumble
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thanks, looking forward to it.
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Me too good stuff,,, was wondering when it will get here when i spied a nice screw in boss on my "good bike" yesterday, you know a "good bike", can you qwak, qwak like a Duc!!!!!
Rog thx, keep my cable for yourself and send me one later if you like, i have tons going on right now.
Send me the entire gizzmo later when you get it all together and save the hassle and postage, no sweat.
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Thanks very much for the offer, but your whole deal is already on the way. They owe me one other accessory anyway, so they're just going to ship it to me then. I should have it in a week, which probably means we'll all get ours at about the same time.

take care all
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Roger: device arrived today, looks good, thanks.

now if I could just talk the manufacturer into writing a mac version...
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You darn mac-heads

Seriously, can't you take the output files and import into mac excel?
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yes, i can and do everyday, so no problem. transferring excel files from pc to mac is seamless, requires no conversion. no sweat.
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Cool,

we used to be forced to use those things at Motorola.
That and Unix. Neither was bad, but going back and forth between was not even vaguely seamless. Not horrible, just a bunch of extra steps for every trivial data transfer. Thank god that crap is in the past.

Can't wait to hear feedback on the system. My cable isn't here yet and I'm heavily customer booked over the weekend, so I think you may all end up ahead of me.

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Rog,
"The Gizzmo" just arrived, off to the shop for me.
Thx a bunch.
Figure me in on any similar or related dealios in the future.
Thx agian.
Hope i can figure this out, im not to bright of a guy, but i know where theres a super brilliant one in SoCal.
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Very welcome.

My getting to play has been delayed again.
Some guy running a tuning shop over in Houston found out I had sold some and insisted on driving over and buying my last one so he could take care of a critical customer job. Apparently their normal shop wideband had failed and left them in a bind. I didn't want to part with it, but you have to help other shops out. Plus, if they're willing to send a guy on a 5-6 hour round trip they must really need it. Gotta order myself a new one on Monday.

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Actually got side tracked myself.
Just got to really look the set up over, what a great value.
This should be educational and useful.
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Rec'd mine on Thurs. or Fri. last week. Will open boxes today 'n try to not look/feel like a monkey with a keyboard.
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