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OT-why are MC costs twice that of a car?

just popped over to bobsbmw.com and they are showing a special for express oil service ONLY $49.95!!! last time i had my oil changed on my car it was half that and required a more specialized shop to do it. why would a bike with an easy access drain plug and filter cost $50 for an oil change???

not to mention the theivery for a tire change. and why it is moto wheels are twice the cost of a nice car wheel and are made up of less material? does it all come down to volume or i am seriously missing something here??? even whe i drove a 328i and had the dealer do the oil change in richmond, va...it was dirt cheap with bmw synth oil. such a racket.

hoping to score my very own harbor friehgt tire changing setup for my b-day. the first time you use the dang thing, it pays for it self...twice!!! just need a wheel balancer now.

figure with the stable growing and all, once you have crested the hill of owning two machines, it is not so exponential in costs.

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I'll like sociiologic questions, so I'll take a run at this.

I think the main reason is the same one that causes motorcycle-specific oil to cost double that of car oil and woman's haircuts to cost triple that of men's. It is not that the motorcycle oil costs more to produce or that woman's hair is 3x harder to cut. It is because the market for motorcycle oil and woman's haircuts is more specialized, less generic, requires more specialized facilities, doesn't have the large ecomomies of scale, requires different advertising, requires a different approach to customers, etc. Or more plainly spoken, because a motorcycle oil change is a more specialized activity, people are simply willing to pay more for a motorcycle oil change than a car oil change.

In this specific case, car oil changes are typically "loss leaders" for full-service establishments and they provide them below cost. They're somewhat forced to do so by the Jiffy Lube places. If you thought the market would support it, you could start a chain of Motorcycle Jiffy Lube places and oil change prices would drop at dealerships. But the market for MC Jiffy Lubes wouldn't be large enough to support the infrastructure. More specialized services cost more.

And tire changes are a whole different animal. Changing a motorcycle tire is much more difficult than a car tire, both with respect to getting the wheel off the vehicle and with respect to actually swapping the rubber.

I think the average cost per mile for the average motorcyclist who uses his vehicle for recreation rather than transportation is probably ridiculous - on the order of several dollars per mile. People buy expensive machines, modify them with expensive accessories (with dubious benefit), mount expensive tires that wear out quickly, ride the bikes hard requiring expensive maintenance and repairs, wreck them frequently, and sell them often, incurring very high depreciation. With this level of outlay, a $50 oil change is a vanishingly small potatoes, thus people are insensitive to the cost.

Just my $0.02.

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Well said Mark,

The dealer is definitely not going to get rich off of oil changes at $50 or tire changes either for that matter. Now some of these dealers charge retail for tires and they can make some money doing it if people will pay it. We as a dealer dont charge retail for tire changes,.....but will only change a tire on a BMW as that is what we are set up for. You could bring me any bike you own and it would not be a money maker to change your oil for even $60 because we are not set up for every bike out there nor have the knowledge to work on every make out there. So yes,......it is very specialized. We try our best to charge what is fair,......but we do have to pay a certified mechanic to spend 30 minutes doing an oil change for a standard R bike,.........more time for a K and that cost the dealer money. Cars are much easier to deal with and oil changes are loss leaders the allow the car to get to the dealer for the "upsale" such as wiper blades or a full tune up or new tires,... blah blah blah. Its almost impossible to compare a motorcycle dealership to a car dealership because of this specialized niche. That is also why the BMW Automobile dealers who took on BMW Motorcycle franchises did not succeed overall. A car salseman is not going to be able to sell a motorcycle because if he doesnt ride,........he wont get it or have a clue what he is selling. As for the technical side of it. The tools are very specific for motorcycles and so are the procedures. I dont like Jiffy lube touching anything I own let alone a bike.
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In addition to that, Mark, tooling costs for motorcycle tires can only be absorbed by may be less than 5% of the consumers as compare to the car tires.

Oil changes should be easy enough to do it at home. Motorcycle shops have the same overhead costs as other car repair shops but with less consumers, hence the high costs.

Like you said, Mark, we are in it for the pleasure and we're paying for it.
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great insight guys!
Even with the higher costs involved most people who work in the motorcycle industry whether dealers, salesman, or technicians are not really in to to get rich, because it is not one of the most profitable places to be.... But rather because they love bikes and enjoy being around them.
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As with everything else in this life you get what you pay for. I started out working in motorcycle parts after school at Paulson's in Lakewood, WA, during the era whe Paulson's was one of (if not THE) biggest bultaco dealers on the west coast, as well as the clearinghouse for norton after bakruptcy (NEW norton 850 commandos in the crate for $1500..If only I would have bought a half-dozen..oh well)...a few famous names came thru there in those days; Jim Pomeroy, Doug Raines, Dan Zlock worked there; I picked up reams of priceless knowledge there, which stood me in good stead in all the later years of fixin', ridin', racin' and creatin' motorsickles. I was fortunate to have gone to one of the first motorcycle-specific repair courses in the pacNW, which included being able to to factory honda and suzuki training. That was my life for a number of years, before computers and software. Why this is pertinent: I'm actually contemplating going back in the industry, but I have to make enough money to be able to pay my mortgage, and if I change your oil, it'll cost you more than if the 19-year-old shop asssistant does it, but who would you trust more? Most automotive dealerships have tech's who are not at the journeyman level yet doing things like oil changes, but when it's your butt on the line, don't you want the benefit of years of experience and someone who really cares about the ride they are touching? Scooters are different in every respect than cars, and that includes less tolerance for f**k-ups. A tiny mistake on a car is a big mistake on a motorcycle....once again, you get what you pay for (usually, but that's ignoring things like BMW paralever pivot bearings and brake 'brain boxes', which is a whole 'nother subject). I'd walk away tomorrow from software engineering but I have to make a living in the MC industry, and that living costs more at 46 than it did at 21.
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All I know, is I hope you get your tire changing set up too!!! I know where we can store it!!!
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Hey Repoe, I got the harbor freight setup (cheaper at the store locally - only $65 for the car stand AND motorcycle attachment), Promotion Tire irons, a craftsmen 30 gal air compressor, and Marc Parnes statics cone style wheel balancer. Works well. Marc's wheel balancer is cool because you can use two jack stands or sawhorses or whatever to balance and I got mine balanced to over 120mph with little trouble. It sure is nice being able to change my own tires. Should have done it 12 sets of tires ago.

A note. Definitely cover the teeth on the harbor freight moto attachment as they are a bit sharp and left some small clamp marks on my wheels at the first go. Not that big of a deal because my wheels have already been hashed by monkey tire changers all around the country, but I'd hate to your nice blue replica wheels marred.

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i hear every word you all are saying...if "you get what you pay" then why, oh why, did i always have to correct or adjust something on my bike after being served up a bill for a specialized, trained individual to work on my bike? i didnt get what i paid for.

i dont buy the tire changing thing though. i mean you need a jack or car lift just to get the wheel off the car...then unless you are not using a machine you have twice as many wheels to deal with. add it up...lets say $300 for a front and rear stand...$75 for a tire changing setup for bikes...another $50 in irons, weights, $100 for a wheel balancer. even if all you had was a "tire specialist" doing nothing but tire changes, they would be efficient at the job. of course they may want more out of life than to change tires all day long, but it might make capable experts that wont screw up your wheels while changing tires.

as for the oil...did you ever here the one about a $75 oil change on a ducati? well i did and it sucked. i mean, the fairings were off with dzus fasteners, the filter spins off, the oils drain, the dealer gets oil bulk in 55 gallon drums...where the hell is that profit margin.

sure there are specialized tools and brand/model specific knowledge, but that should mean the dealer is able to work more efficiently and compentently...just doesnt happen.

i knew volume would be a big factor in the discussion, but i have to wonder if it is the cost of ownership that impedes growth in MC ownership. there are MC owners and then their are MC riders and i think a lot of the riders actually wrench on their own bikes.

if we are only 5%, shouldnt the industry work on bettering the cost of owenrship to aid in growth??? the the margin would be better as more people would need service, etc.

most shops need a much larger shop area, but i am sure populating it with capable bodies is a challenge. demograpchics aside...even bob's bmw service area (the largest i have ever seen next to a HD shop) is relatively small.

the saga continues...

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Hey Repoe, I got the harbor freight setup (cheaper at the store locally - only $65 for the car stand AND motorcycle attachment), Promotion Tire irons, a craftsmen 30 gal air compressor, and Marc Parnes statics cone style wheel balancer. Works well. Marc's wheel balancer is cool because you can use two jack stands or sawhorses or whatever to balance and I got mine balanced to over 120mph with little trouble. It sure is nice being able to change my own tires. Should have done it 12 sets of tires ago.

A note. Definitely cover the teeth on the harbor freight moto attachment as they are a bit sharp and left some small clamp marks on my wheels at the first go. Not that big of a deal because my wheels have already been hashed by monkey tire changers all around the country, but I'd hate to your nice blue replica wheels marred.

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first set of new tires that went on the replica got a nice little mark. sucked it up...as for the R6, got some spray paint that matches for cover ups. used the harbor freight setup when i changed the R6 tires, so i got familar with those teeth as well. even with rim strips we managed a couple scratches.

to all the DC area S riders..wil change tires for cheap, appointments required

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Question about tires. What kind of prices are you seeing for tire work? I got new tires yesterday, took the rims off and brought them in, paid about $20 for mounting/balancing/disposal for 2 tires. They were done in less then 30 minutes. Am I missing something, but unless thats abnormal, I dont see the need for a tire changer and balancer. :?
As for oil, I wouldnt pay that sorta price. I do it myself for about $20 with synthetics. And after having our sable done at a Jiffy Lube sorta place, and the plug falling out when I got home... I'll never let anyone do an oil change for me again!
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the rest of the story; competence is as rare in the motorcycle industry as it is anywhere else (not that I'm claiming that I'M competent, but I'd let my work speak for itself), as is common sense and the ability to think things through 5 steps ahead to the desired end result. The bottom line is this, as I'm sure you know by now...look long and hard for a good wrench and then when you finally find him (or her) support them to the best of your ability. One reason I got out of the vehicle-fixing business was that the ceiling was as high as my knee; I need to have 40 grand wrapped up in tools but the wages and benefits would barely support a single 21-year-old. Now that all the non-DoD programming jobs are going to bangalore faster than a hayabusa at redline in 6th, I'm reconsidering that shift, unless I can get a gig as a gigolo (not bloody likely *sigh*). I'm actually considering a voc-school AA degreee in automotive repair, with an emphasis on electronics and driveability diagnostics, as a lot of line wrenches are scared of 'puters. And if anyone on this board knows what the pinouts corrospond to a serial connection from the BMW diagnostic PC, Id love to have the schematic, as I'm convinced I could write my own interface app to at least interrogate the motronic...
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Question about tires. What kind of prices are you seeing for tire work? I got new tires yesterday, took the rims off and brought them in, paid about $20 for mounting/balancing/disposal for 2 tires. They were done in less then 30 minutes. Am I missing something, but unless thats abnormal, I dont see the need for a tire changer and balancer. :?
As for oil, I wouldnt pay that sorta price. I do it myself for about $20 with synthetics. And after having our sable done at a Jiffy Lube sorta place, and the plug falling out when I got home... I'll never let anyone do an oil change for me again!
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yeah, try $75 even when i pulled the wheels off the bike...$125 when i ride the bike in. considering those prices AND the time, it takes over 1-2 hours of waiting, not to mention the hour+ ride to one of the shops. my time is worth a lot and it adds up quickly if i can have tires drop shipped to my door, jack the bike up, take the wheels off, dismount, remount, balance, reinstall wheels, and off i go...i have saved a bundle right then and there. figure i will be changing tires soon enough on the S..thinking about the roadtecs this time around, so it will pay for itself the first time out. i think i will be getting the tireqwik wheel balancer...but wil check out the Marc Parnes statics cone style wheel balancer, thanks.

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All I know, is I hope you get your tire changing set up too!!! I know where we can store it!!!
Gee what are friends for anyway...

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So bike repairs are too high??? tell me what are we taxpayers paying you an hour to work on that project in DC...??
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Hard to add much, but I'll say it's not cheap to hire good help, and since no one think's changing tires is fun, you're not going to find a specialist, any any price that you'd accept. Therefore, don't expect a bargain there.

As others have said, volume is low, and, performance is high, so these are not cheap. Liability is ridiculous.

Try charing yourself for not only your equip, but a roof, and your medical insurance, and brakes, and ordering/receiving/paying for the items. It all adds up. As people more professional than me have pointed out, none of them/us are getting rich doing it.

Also, if you scratch your rim, no biggie. If the shop does it (and it WILL happen every 17th or 63rd or 85th time) then the shop has to pay for that, and cover it in their costs. One out of a couple thousand can fall in the shop and then the shop owes you big, all of which adds to the cost.
How many of us have NEVER dropped any bike or anything else valuable???

Personally, I have an HF setup, but still use the local shop for large modern painted rims, and leave my HF setup for old narrow, worn, spoked rims. The new machines (3-5000) dont touch the outside of the rim, and save scratches, but they're a long way from free.

Bob's may be a tick high, I'll give you that, but it's a free country and that's a high cost of living area and no one is required to live there, or shop at Bob's, and, no one knowledgeable that considers costs and risks, both implicit and explicit, can call it robbery. I'd expect Bob's to be higher that Beemerss-of-Buffalo or PeoriaPowerSports.

But you've already solved it. Get the equip and do it yourself. If you ride enough, it's reasonable. I too like the Marc Parnes setup. Most bang for the buck. I like the Metzler/SpecII stands and bearings better, but Marc's rods and cones better. (sounds optical) I'm going to have a rod turned that is the Metzler length but Marc diameter so I can use Marc's cones/wheel adapter with the Metzler stand. Best of both worlds.

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I mounted some tires on a new MV Augusta the other day Thankfully he brought just the rims.... I was sweating drops of blood.... finished with no scratches, whew I actually made $42.00 but at the risk involved I shoulda charged him quite a bit more....
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My machine is one of those no touch ones that FMC made on contract for Goodyear... and if you are not very careful with the adjustments it is still possible to peel the paint. I tend to be more careful since my reputation is on the line. repoe3's complaint regarding quality of technicians is an accurate response. I have seen guys who couldn't care less, and even abuse customer machines with no sense of guilt. But still in comparison to the cost of other service care industries, I really don't think the motorcycle industry is too far out of line. I had a guy picked up a Kawasaki Vulcan yesterday for an oil change, he was elated to pay $37 he told me the dealer had been hittting him for $90..... On a Kawi??? that was crazy.
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repoe: WOW. Thats amazingly rediculous price. I'd agree, worth getting your own setup. I will have to thank my shop next time I am in there for being so nice and reasonable. I think at $75 I would be getting the dirt bike tire levers out and making it work.. hehe..
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What are they charging you for tire changes? wheels off the bike or on? I am looking for comparisons.
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