LEO kill's rider, get's 10 day's off

WINTER1100S · 08-11-2005, 09:49 AM

http://www.record-eagle.com/2005/aug/09stevens.htm

WINTER1100S · 08-11-2005, 09:52 AM

I think it's BULL***** the break's they give cop's.

In other word's, if it were you or I, WE would not have been sharing the same road with Jeff, prolly still in jail...

tbsstunta · 08-11-2005, 10:03 AM

Its like they cut him a break because he puts his life on the line every day. Go fig.

yetidave · 08-11-2005, 10:08 AM

The biker came over the center line and hit the cop. Whats the problem?

WINTER1100S · 08-11-2005, 10:17 AM

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Originally posted by tbsstunta
Its like they cut him a break because he puts his life on the line every day. Go fig.

That's a hell of a break! Not only just (10) day's
but no liscence restrictions as well?

I hear ya as far as life on the line but come on! Favoritism.

WINTER1100S · 08-11-2005, 10:19 AM

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Originally posted by yetidave
The biker came over the center line and hit the cop. Whats the problem?

Two part answer:

1.The Officer should not have been on the road.
2.I knew the rider.

lemec · 10:21 AM

Driving drunk didn't cause the biker to die any more than hitting the car didn't cause the driver to be drunk. If that's how it went down, I agree with Dave.

Sorry to hear that you knew him, and yeah, the cop wouldn't have been on the road had he been responsible. But that biker could likely have hit someone else who wasn't drunk, obviously, and the cop should get reamed for drunk driving.

BubbaZanetti · 08-11-2005, 10:28 AM

just when i'm about to get over my teenage dislike of cops and their preferental treatment, i hear a story like this.

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Originally Posted by article

Stevens pleaded guilty to drunken driving last month and was sentenced to six-months probation after he was pulled over by a state trooper on July 13. Stevens, who said he had been out celebrating his birthday, was found to have a blood-alcohol level of .22, nearly three times the legal limit of 0.08. He was placed on unpaid suspension for 10 working days after a disciplinary hearing July 19.

so infuriating.............

werewulf · 02:08 PM

while you are bashing the cops and the usual feeding frenzy is about to start, ill tell you a reverse story. i worked a crash involving a biker and a cage at 3am one morning. when i arrived on the scene, the paramedic was carrying something which turned out to be the bikers leg. long story short, the biker was drunk bigtime, but witnesses said that he was driving straight down the center of his lane. the cage driver was sober and crossed the centerline to hit the bike head on. believe it or not, the biker survived.
while the biker was getting medical treatment, the doctor discovered the bikers blood alcohal was twice the legal limit. the doctor found out that the cage was charged with a moving violation, but not the biker and filed a complaint against me. it is true that the biker was drunk, but had not done anything to contribute to the wreck. could he have avoided the wreck if he wasnt drunk i will never know.
i felt that the biker had lost his leg and had suffered enough for his stupidity and he was the only one injured. i refused to file dwi charges against the rider and was suspended for derelict of duty. i admit i didnt follow proceedure, but i was the one there smelling the blood at the scene and it was something i could live with. that was 20 years ago and i would probably do the same thing again today. this was before i owned a motorcycle and a lot of cops ride too.

gigantic · gigantic's Garage

Cops usually lie to cover their ass, when as a witness to prosecution, why should this be any different? on who's word do we have it that the bike crossed the centerline? i'm willing to bet that it was the cop's, who at .22% BAC, was seriously messed up-drunk. Something's rotten here, must be the pickled bacon.

BMWRider36 · 08-11-2005, 03:16 PM

Man, I can't believe it! The motorcyclist was obviously at fault! The deputy wasn't under the influence at the time! You all obviously missed this part of the article: "State police traffic crash investigators from Bay City said alcohol was not a factor in Saturday's accident."

Regarding the sentence the deputy got for the violation which happened BEFORE this crash--six months probation--it is the same that just about anyone else would get for their first violation!

gigantic · gigantic's Garage

my error. i still see it as a case of cops covering up for one another.

VetteRacer · 08-11-2005, 03:41 PM

Reread what the article says people!
The fact that he had been caught drinking a month prior has NOTHING to do with the accident at hand.
If you want to get into F'd up "off the hook" stuff do some research on that ******* from South Dakota, Janklow.
Yes, it sucks that someone lost their life. But dont go blowing things out of proportion cause of how the media is presenting stuff.
Matt

Bigred455 · 08-11-2005, 03:43 PM

Yes there is most definitely two parts two that story. 1 the cop was charged of drunk driving a month ago and got 10 days suspension... I have heard of less penalties from non-leo's. 2 This same cop happened to have been hit head on by the motorcyclist weeks after his drunk driving ordeal, end of story. Those stories only relate to eachother cause of the person invovled.

Renton · 08-11-2005, 05:30 PM

Did he really cross the center line?

I look at that as a death sentence. Never cross the line!

Cop's lie.

This guy was a DUI before and he is a "narcotics" officer. Crappy dept.

markjenn · 08-11-2005, 08:43 PM

With the information at hand, it is impossible to know for sure who was at fault in the accident, and the officer's prior history does give one pause, but the way this thread is titled is extremely inflammatory and in very poor taste.

- Mark

pdonnell · 08-11-2005, 08:43 PM

Cop's lie.

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Sheesh.... did somebody's brain transplant just kick in? What industry employs people that never lie? The current and recent president of the USA are liars. What's new? People will be people. This explains why we don't have saint written before our names.......I know its a little deep for those that comingle issues.

Renton · 08-12-2005, 03:14 AM

Sheesh.... did somebody's brain transplant just kick in? What industry employs people that never lie?

I was referring to an abuse of power mentality. Cover-ups and "protecting the brotherhood" types of behavior are wrong.

That said; I have no idea of what actually happened. We may never know now.

BMWRider36 · 08-12-2005, 04:23 AM

The crash was investigated by the State Police and they did comment that alcohol was not a factor in the crash. This indicates to me that the trooper at the scene was aware of the deputy's history and that the trooper did check out if alcohol was involved.

Now for the "cops lie" crap...in this particular situation, the investigating trooper probably is very aware that everyone will be checking and rechecking each and every move that the trooper made during his investigation. Why? Because the case involves a fatality. Further, the case involves another LEO. This is a situation where the trooper probably made sure that he crossed every "t" and dotted every "i" in his report. I don't think any LEO in his right mind would risk his entire career and livelyhood to lie about a situation that is so open to investigation by the press, insurance companies, lawyers and others.

This is not a situation that occured in some dark deserted ally involving two cops and a suspect. This happened in front of other people and it will surely be investigated by two insurance companies and possibly lawyers seeking to make money off of it.

WINTER1100S · 08-12-2005, 05:43 AM

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Originally posted by werewulf
while you are bashing the cops...but i was the one there smelling the blood at the scene and it was something i could live with. that was 20 years ago and i would probably do the same thing again today. this was before i owned a motorcycle and a lot of cops ride too.

I'm not bashing cops. I'm bashing the Law, the
system, the legal due process. Sorry to
hear you had to experience such a scene...