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ST is the true replacement for the previous -S-.

http://www.bmwmotorcycles.com/bikes/bike.jsp?b=r1200st#

I cant wait to see the reintro, the new -S- is a super class bike, but the old -S- was not , more of a general pupose bike.
I have decided that the ST is the actual old -S- upgrade, the new -S- is a true sport bike, the old -S- was not.
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Re: ST is the true replacement for the previous -S-.

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I cant wait to the the reintro, the new -S- is a super class bike, but the old -S- was not , more of a general pupose bike.
I have decided that the ST is the actual old -S- upgrade,the new -S- is a true sport bike, the old -S- was not.
Alrighty then, you're the real decider, so to speak. I don't care what you call either bike 11 or 12. Everyone knows the best S for it's time was the R90S, it actually competed against and beat it's contemporaries. Most on this board also know the 11 was and is a sport tourer and the 12 is a sport bike, not a super sport, but a sport. I would happily own any one of them and all if I could.


btw your troll hasn't caught Chris's eye yet.
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Do dealers stock these, I haven't seen one since last year?
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Re: ST is the true replacement for the previous -S-.

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I cant wait to the the reintro, the new -S- is a super class bike, but the old -S- was not , more of a general pupose bike.
I have decided that the ST is the actual old -S- upgrade,the new -S- is a true sport bike, the old -S- was not.
Gary -

You know I've been saying that for quite some time. I have both and I completely agree.
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your troll hasn't caught Chris's
I'm holding my breath in anticipation.
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I'm holding my breath in anticipation.
Oh Jesus H. C. perhaps he will give us a break just this once and keep his mouth and his keyboard shut!

But I doubt it - Besides I think, much like a big crash in a NASCAR event, his redneck truck driving, opinionated ignorance keeps me coming back to this site for more and more.

So Chris, please don't disappoint, please flap your keyboard lips with more of your ignorant drool!
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Those gizze are gonna fix the front end then you will see, you will all see what a great bike the ST is.
REAL CASES, thats what we're talking about.

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acid,obviously most R1100S and R1100RS riders did not think so otherwise BMWNA would still import the bike for 2007...
But I have a better idea to replace the R1200ST and sell a few of those R1200S bikes...Since the K1200SR got the fairing off the R1200S it is only fair the R1200S gets the bags,seat nd luggage rack off the K1200SR...;-) That would actually help the sales even if some "pure sportbike" no bags pimadonnas off this board would moan but still havn't bought the bike either...
Otherwise more acid and you'll like the looks of the ST...;-)
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Chris, you are as dependable as death and taxes. Thank you for not disappointing. I was awake all night worried that you would miss this troll.
Thanks for saying the same ole crap for the 10,000th time.
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the "ducati style" headlight assembly is a 1300$ option. It looks really good in CF but I rather spend that kind of money on taking the bike on long trips.
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Give us a real front end and more people would be all over that bike. Sales figures speak volumes though ... as capabable as it is, the 4 guys who COULD get past the looks are not buttering BMWs bread.

This bike is great though.
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I did not communicate clearly, that is my fault, and i assume complete blame.
Honestly guys i was whoring on the BMW factory site thinking sbout my next project, the ST really does jump out as a good place to begin, if they reintro the bike with a new front fairing, never liked it never will, i thouhgt that was pulled and they ere bringing it back for 07-08 with out the cathedral look?
Now someone posted a pic of the new ultra hot and useful k1200rs, could be the perfect higher performance bike.
I know this is premature and needs to wait until its raining.
Ill be riding all AM and not thinking about any of this.
Bags and passengers would violate the design intent of the new -S-, its perfect the way it is.
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acid,obviously most R1100S and R1100RS riders did not think so otherwise BMWNA would still import the bike for 2007...
Nope, its the aesthetics that keep it a slow seller for the 1100S touring guys; the 1100S sportbike guys are going for the R1200S.

It has big bags, a big tank, comfy 2-up seat, adjustable ergos, an adjustable windscreen, and center stand; everything you want in the R1200S.

This is why you should be complaining on an R1200ST forum. I suspect you did and they kicked you off, which is why you are bothering us on here.

As I always said, the R1200ST is the spiritual successor of the R1100S. The R1200S is a new bike.
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Cadave,

How well does the ST work? My 11s is pure crap two up, have you
taken a trip two up on the ST?
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Jon;
Look at the geometry on your 1100S, wont work right with 2, in fact i think it becomes dangerous.
ST or RT, or even a GS-A, if you want to stick with the twins, 4 banger, wow more options. Still cant wait to see what the new ST looks like, bet set up it is just as fast maybe faster than our old -S- models.
Ill bring the RT up on one of these trips, you will like it, so will Mrs Jon and that is the end game on 2 up stuff, yes?
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Gary,

We look forward to your next visit. Jenn was asking about how things were looking for you yesterday. Once you ride here I doubt you'll want to leave.
Have you ridden an ST? Has anyone here ridden one two up? I'm thinking of the what is it, something like 150lbs lighter than the RT?
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Cadave,

How well does the ST work? My 11s is pure crap two up, have you
taken a trip two up on the ST?
The ST is a totally different experience two up. My two BCPs didn't really like any weight in the rear. Even when it was just loaded up bags the front got a little vague.

The ST handles two up with no real impact on the handling. I've taken my wife out and I was shocked at how well it did in the canyons. I've also loaded it up with a weeks worth of *everything* for a trip and had no problems from the weight of that either.

The thing about the ST is it's GREAT freeway ride. It just glides. Best freeway bike I've ever ridden.
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Dave is the guy for the ST scoop, he does it all.
I have only played and never do two up.
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living so close to Raven and Pat has tainted your out look on things.
Your next project,(if it happens), should be the R1200S HP2 !!!
It makes me wet just thinking about it.
Now if they only make it with enough suspension and hp to suit my fancy,(or at least provide me with a good base to upgrade), I'll be happy for a few years.
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I rode the ST at Santa Cruz BMW this past January and liked it. Although I was a bit disappointed it still vibrated like a paint shaker. At least much more than 90 degree twins I've owned.
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For the money though and reduce hp it just didn't ring my bell. Maybe it was the headlight. or pricepoint. If it were 12 large I think I woulda been more excited. At least enough to consider it a purchase option.
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