Negataive News Report

MrK · 11-03-2006, 02:38 PM

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/p...mp;pageId=3.1.1

I thought the story was bias and slanted,even though they used words like "few" and small amount" or similar. I thought it was a bit of a witch hunt against motorcyclists.
Is it just me?

BMW Atlanta · 11-03-2006, 03:55 PM

a witch hunt for the 1% of idiots that Darwin should have taken care many moons ago. This report was aimed at squids who are giving any motorcyclists bad names in the N GA mtns let alone sport bike riders.

5axis · 11-03-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by BMW Atlanta
a witch hunt for the 1% of idiots that Darwin should have taken care many moons ago. This report was aimed at squids who are giving any motorcyclists bad names in the N GA mtns let alone sport bike riders.

Let us be honest. It is much more than 1% who are violating traffic laws. There is a smaller group of sea life that probably rides stupid and I would guess they are much more than 1%.
Heck, I broke the speed limits when I rode the dragon in the rain.

Did you notice the bike sound and the emphasis placed on it?

5axis · 11-03-2006, 06:58 PM

I was expecting some dufas to do a 100mph stand-up past the camera

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=1375282&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=1.1.1

conclusion
sport bikes are bad, cruisers are good.

R111S · R111S's Garage

Thanks for sharing that newscast...some truth there in the midst of some misconceptions like "100 MPH through the mountains". I'd find it hard to believe someone could sustain 100 MPH through every corner. It's more like going really fast on the straights and then slowing for the curves isn't it?

The only curves the Sport Bikers do here is the Entrance/Exit Ramps to the Interstate. They've no clue that anything else exists nearby.

My Riding Buddies and I have found numerous side roads with little traffic to have fun on. A few times a year some young guys on their Gixers will tag along. They've little experience on curvy/hilly roads and quickly fall behind...they never come out to play again...tis a pity they can't keep up with a bunch of old men on 2-Cylinder MCs.

Dave Bowen · 11-03-2006, 07:31 PM

Hooligans all of them . . . now sat again, where exactly are these sweet lookin' roads?

MrK · 11-05-2006, 05:19 AM

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Let us be honest. It is much more than 1% who are violating traffic laws. There is a smaller group of sea life that probably rides stupid and I would guess they are much more than 1%.

I totally agree, I bend the law every time I'm out thats why I have a R1100s if I didn't I would sell it and buy a Harley or a scooter.
I doubt anyone would consider me a Squid. although I might be wrong.
I thought this news cast was slanted in its reports. I have been those roads quit often and doing 150 to me seems impossible. There are maybe two parts that triple digits are even possible.
I love how everyone that they interviewed said " They were going well over 100 mph" how in the hell would they know.
Squids or not this news report is going to stick in peoples mind that all riders in the MTS are dangerous and going to kill them.

BMW Atlanta · 11-05-2006, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by MrK
I totally agree, I bend the law every time I'm out thats why I have a R1100s if I didn't I would sell it and buy a Harley or a scooter.
I doubt anyone would consider me a Squid. although I might be wrong.
I thought this news cast was slanted in its reports. I have been those roads quit often and doing 150 to me seems impossible. There are maybe two parts that triple digits are even possible.
I love how everyone that they interviewed said " They were going well over 100 mph" how in the hell would they know.
Squids or not this news report is going to stick in peoples mind that all riders in the MTS are dangerous and going to kill them.

Very possible to hit 150 where they were taking readings. It's heading south down 129 right before the end of the only 2 lane section heading down the hill and most all the sportbikes riding in packs do wick it up including myself on whatever I am on. I don't think I would ever do 150 there, but not because I can't. 100mph is more then probable there for many a sportbike there and its easy to maintain between 70-80 mph through most of those curves let alone hit 100 out of the corner, (not that I would know personally, hehe) But I do hold back on passing on double yellows or going over the line. If you can't keep it in your lane you have no business being there. I will sit frustrated behind a slow moving RV/car for a long time. Many of the sportbike crowd have brought this on themselves. They lack the judgement to just cool it and see what the road gods have planned for them on the next corner when maybe that slow moving vehicle will turn or pull off. That same lack of judgement is what has them over shooting corners and having single vehicle accidents. I'd have been more interested in how many of those 300 accidents were single vehicle and no-one but the motorcyclist was involved. Willing to bet 2/3 or probably more were single vehicle.

MrK · 11-05-2006, 05:47 AM

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Willing to bet 2/3 or probably more were single vehicle.

I agree these things are not reported.

5axis · 11-05-2006, 06:43 PM

"This will probably get deleted as I don't ride and don't really have the desire to. I get my thrills from doing things that would probably scare the hell out of y'all. I do have the knowledge to voice an opinion though as I am one of the guys that shows up to package and load you on a bird for the expensive trip back to Atlanta after you wreck.

I have seen comments about 300 wrecks in the 4 counties they mentioned being high. To me it seemed low. Way low. That sounds more like the total for my county alone. I can't tell you how many weekends we have been paged out to 5 or more in one day, just bounce back and forth between 60 and 129. And those are just the ones we get sent to because of injuries. And no it is not as I have seen a few comments here that it is mostly cruisers. For every one cruiser bike that wrecks I have probably been to 15 sport bikes.

Some of the things I have seen sport bikers doing make the stuff on the news report look tame. I have been passed while running lights and sirens headed to a motorcycle wreck by a pack of sport bikes on one wheel. We have had ambulances passed on the mountain going to a call. There have been more than one instance that I ran a car wreck either head on into other vehicles or into trees because someone on a bike was passing on a double yellow and they did not want to hit him. I'll tell you right now that you come across the yellow in front of me, I am not going to swerve into traffic or hit a tree to miss you, I know from experience that the car usually wins and you make that choice to come across the line, hope you have things right with your maker.

Saw someone make the comment that we are volunteer firefighters around these parts. Thats right, and it does get a bit old going to wreck after wreck because of people doing stupid things. I can assure you that we can find better things to with our families than leave them constantly to pick you guys up.

And another thing. While you are up on the mountain having your fun and thrills riding like that, keep this in the back of your mind. You wreck and get hurt, you are going to lay there in pain for better part of 30 minutes before an ambulance gets there. Should you have managed to go down the embankment, tack on some more time while we wait in the fire truck to get there so we can set up ropes to drag you back up. And I assure you , our trucks do go up the mountain very fast. After we get you up, odds are we are going to fly you out on life flight. Ever seen one of those bills? That ride is going to cost more than your bike does. And lets not forget that the expensive riding suit you are wearing is going to be cut off you.

So y'all have your fun, whine that everyone is against you and what not. But as long as we are making multiple runs up the mountain every weekend , our opinion will be hard to change.

Accident happened approx 4:00 , patient was set back down on road to be transported to the helo at 4:55. As I mentioned before, in that area you will be laying there in pain for a while. When you come through Dahlonega and pass the fire station in town, keep in mind that is where the ambulance will have to come from. Pretty good haul to anywhere on the mountain. We do what we can with what we have.
Obviously even though the wrecks on the mountain can be a nuisance, we still respond in force to handle whatever situation is present. It does not matter who you are or what choices you may have made to get in the position you are in, we treat you like any other patient.

True. Bird just went over my house. If you want an idea of the process for a wreck on the mountain , listen to these radio feeds and you can see the amount of resources it takes. So far other than police there is at least 3 firefighters in their own cars, an engine, a rescue truck, ambulance with two people and helicopter with 3 people en route.

http://archive.scangeorgia.com/3026/200611051604.asx - 11/05/2006 from 04:04 pm - 04:19 pm
http://archive.scangeorgia.com/3026/200611051619.asx -11/05/2006 from 04:19 pm - 04:35 pm
http://archive.scangeorgia.com/3026/200611051635.asx - 11/05/2006 from 04:35 pm - 04:50 pm

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R111S · R111S's Garage

Thanks for posting that 5axis...Very sobering to say the least.

bingo · 11-06-2006, 01:45 AM

5axis, what bike forum did that come from? And do you agree with what the non-rider said? I thought his statements were bold. He reports to do things that would scare the H E double tooth picks out of us. How does he know we don't do those same things? I guess the person does not realize what we do is a sport also. And we know the risks. IMO if he doesn't ride, he's not allowed an opinion.

MrK · 11-06-2006, 03:42 AM

By popular demand from my fellow law-abiding board hoons, here is part II: (taken from BMW Sport Touring)

http://www.myfoxatlanta.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=1375282&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=VSTY&pageId=3.1.1

hawkeyejohn14 · hawkeyejohn14's Garage

The accidents I am familiar with personally up there involved a SUV crossing the double yellow and giving a wing rider no where to go except into the SUv's fender well, nobody hurt except the wing rider as traffic backed up a bike came around a blind corner only to find the traffic backed up, he laid it down. It wasn't even his bike, a guy riding the wrecked guys bike came around the corner and went hysterical that his brand new 955i had just been laid down.

It is hard not to pass on double yellows up there with cars and campers moving so slowly, just not on blind curves, plenty of time for a bike to accellerate and get past a car in open curves with good visability.

They didn't mention the people who try to self inforce there laws on bikes and screw with the motorcyclist by trying to cut them off when they try to pass, or hitting their brakes if they think they are being tail gated (very subjectively I might add).

When I have ridden with other BMW riders I found them to be smooth and relatively close to the posted limits, they just didn't slow down for the curves, they pretty much held to 50-65 mph. It was great riding and well with our safety range. Of course I was on a R1100RT, so I might be a little faster on my S.

5axis · 11-06-2006, 09:21 AM

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Originally posted by bingo
5axis, what bike forum did that come from? And do you agree with what the non-rider said? I thought his statements were bold. He reports to do things that would scare the H E double tooth picks out of us. How does he know we don't do those same things? I guess the person does not realize what we do is a sport also. And we know the risks. IMO if he doesn't ride, he's not allowed an opinion.

http://georgiasportbike.com/forums/showthread.php?t=37787

anotheroldrider · 11-07-2006, 06:19 AM

I don't pretend to be an angel, but there's a time and place for everything. We ride off-road in a relatively dangerous area - rocky, high speed stuff. Foolish riding has a severe penalty, so we have the same rules there as we do on sport bikes - we don't care what you ride, but if you act stupid you can't come with us, and we won't tell you where the good trails (or roads) are. The last thing I tell people before leading them on a ride is - Don't get in over your head.