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OT: Ducati 900SS questions

My friend is looking to get a Ducati 900SS. He is looking at the older style 95-97 and would prefer to get the SS/SP. One of the upgrades to the SP is Ductile Iron rotors. What are the advantages of this over Stainless steel rotors besides them rusting whenever the bike is parked longer than a day?
The suspension is also more adjustable offering rebound and compression where the regular SS has none in front.
He is also considering the new style 900SS which I hate the styling of. Anyone have any comments about either of these bikes and the deal with the iron rotors?

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I can't say for sure what the wonderfulness is about the rotors but they work well and they only show color when they've been left wet. They are ring-ching full floaters too which is cool. Here's a link that provides a pretty good run down to yearly changes/improvements.
http://www.geocities.com/edwyun/frames.html

The rotors are the last thing I would be asking about. The suspension between the CR and the SP is huge. Electrics get better over time...last year FE is the best. Oil return lines, oil cooler mounting, rear wheel size, is also important. You can get 'em pretty cheap and they are great bikes....easy to wrench and lots of resources for parts and information available.
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Iron rotors can absorb more heat.
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steve won. they also radiate (shed) the heat better too.
could be why there's cast iron radiators in older homes, eh?
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The forks are actually not the biggest difference between the CR and SS/SP.

The former's fork, though non-externally adjustable, is virtually identical internally, with the same cartridge body and stacks.
In fact, it's much better than the adjustables that went of some SS/SPs post 96, which are low end Marz units. The CR loses a bit more with the silly narrow rear wheel and heavier steel swingarm.
Those are the real minuses. I've seen both Boge and Showa shocks come on both models. The Showas are preferred.

For any sane sort of normal use, either brake rotor will work fine, though the iron are a bit nicer.

Overall, I'd recommend the getting the better unit if he can afford it at all. None if it's night/day, but it all collectively adds up to a nicer bike.
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I love my 92 900ss. I have been told that the early years 92, 93? were prior to the CR/SP distinction. Anyway mine has the cast iron rotors, adjustable front forks for rebound and compression, and the aluminum swing arm. It is one of the most fun motorcycles I have ever owned. I have Mr. Bob Hancock to thank for that. He held a gun to my head and made me ride his 98FE and I just had to have one. Life is too short to deprive oneself of fun motorcycles.
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Roger...stacks schmacks....the stock front on these things needs help right away. Way to hard and if there's no adjustability, then you just lose fillings until the fork internals can be replaced. I guess if I were good at redoing forks I could make the adjustments internally, but I suspect that the questioner is like I am....needs it right from the start with outside adjustment capability. And...if an SP is available for little more than a CR, why would you buy the CR unless you just don't know? Now the questioner knows.
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Roger...stacks schmacks....the stock front on these things needs help right away. Way to hard and if there's no adjustability, then you just lose fillings until the fork internals can be replaced. I guess if I were good at redoing forks I could make the adjustments internally, but I suspect that the questioner is like I am....needs it right from the start with outside adjustment capability. And...if an SP is available for little more than a CR, why would you buy the CR unless you just don't know? Now the questioner knows.
My friend is 90% certain he wants the SP. In 97 was only the FE available or was there SPs and FEs?
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Review the link...it's all there. The FE was only '98. 300 of them came to the US. SP's were available from '92 on I think....Dan Greene's is a first year '92 with a white frame, which ups the cool factor imho. They are out there...not hard to find. Have the money ready and be patient and a nice one will come along.
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The front fork is a no-brainer fix. Lighter oil and sprung for the rider -- usually heavier.
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oops, not my goal.

I was just meaning that a lot of duc guys act like fixing them is tough or a lot is needed. A good baseline is easily achieved by upending the tubes (only good use of a high-side) and dumping the factory molasses out, and replacing with a good dedicated fork oil of low visc (5 or less) and then springing for rider weight.

Most all of the harshness is hydraulic, not spring.
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Roger, with your advice, I tried that and still was not satisfied. So...had them redone professionally. Actually....my only point in all of this is if you're looking for a 900SS, get the SP. For the suspension and other stuff too.
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Not to hijack but a question for Bob. Looks like I'll be in Germany for a while longer and I am looking at a couple superlights 93-94 and wondering what they're going for in the US? I know they only made the SL in 92/93 statesside.
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While I don't have an idea of the current market for the SL, the ones I've seen for sale in the last few years have always brought a premium over even the FE, especially if they were original. Ebay had one showroom bike that started at $10k....which is about what they cost new. Other than a collectable especially if they have the original wheels, they aren't really any better bikes than the SPs to follow and not as good as the FE which had all the last improvements before the 900SS fuel injected models.
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I'd ditto everything Bob said.
The best of that narrow era (93ish)
but all that basically became regular
thereafter. Only of collector value.

Coolest one to me is an FE with a CR fairing.
A good friend ran his SS/SP that way and it looked great.
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My friend is 90% certain he wants the SP. In 97 was only the FE available or was there SPs and FEs?
He wants an SP. It it doesn't already have it, he also wants a Factory Pro Ti jet kit or a set of FCRs before he even rides it.

However the FE (Final Edition) is equal to an SP feature wise so don't turn one down.

I loved mine, and wish I had never sold it...
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Just a technical note here. The 1998 Duc was a SS/FE. It was not referred to as a Special Performance (SP). Are we confusing the FE with the Super Light?



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I'm adding a URL for a brief expose' on the CR vs. SS http://www.ducatitech.com/2v/sp_cr_faq.html
it's fair reading. The FE went beyond the SP on which it was based.


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