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Do you intend to chase after Firebolter at some of the enduros?

KTM maintenance is quite easy don't be scared off by the naysayers (and you know who you are JONYRRRRR...RRR
Valve adjust takes less than 15 minutes once you learn the tricks, and oil changes are also quite simple with everything easily accessible. I know of several guys in our dirt club that have over 10K enduro racing miles on their ktm's that have never had the motors apart, just basic maintenance.

Lots of good used ones available to minimize your lo$$e$ after you lose interest in this activity....
cant say i will be chasing him at enduros, but given he is relatively skilled in the dirt, i like the fact that i can learn something and add it to my two-wheeled experiences. heck, for that matter, he already has enough two-wheeled machines that i can meet him at their club's property and ride his trials bikes, the 200 and the 525. all signs point to spending some time on his stuff and, as you say, refine my thinking.

glad to hear maintenance is straight forward, too.

hey, if it has two wheels, i wont lose interests.

i read a great quote yesterday:

Love is the feeling you have when you care about something as much as you do your motorcycle.

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Old 05-24-2007, 11:51 AM
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Disagree, 525 has a way smoother powerband, the 450 has more of a hit.JMHO


Ah yes, seems as though I have seen this debate over at the KTM Board....


Good to see you still are checking in over here levert. How is the spring riding shaping up in Canada this year?
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ditto....skill vs allure

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i do like the G650X Challenge. maybe a trip to a local shop to try one out is in order. ...
Yeah pricey, but for the level of dirt experience/pupose intended/reliabilty the Challenge is pl-enty of bike.

Lot's of good input here repoe.
The draw to new 450 thumpers has been a draw to me for some time...until I rode a race-friends 450 Yammer.

Not only did I find out how out of shape I was in the first 20 minutes but also what a fast fukker that little bike was.

What turned me around was when he told me about the longevity of the new motors, especially if they're built.
I was thinking Honda XR reliabilty in hi-tech future terms....NOT!

All the new KTMs and Huskys are pure sex, no doubt.
I started in the dirt, and I'd still buy bulletproof, light, and electric start...

It takes a fool like me to buy a sensible dualsport like an X-Challenge...but hey, I'm waiting for the G650 GS...
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"hmm..in town around cabo san lucas and the baja california sur, there was a guy running around on an HP2, an R1150GS, and another on F650GS Dakar. figured i would be taking it easy with my selections. "


I think those bikes you speak of are more for riding the pavement in Baja with a bit of dirt. An "offroad" Baja bike really has to perform in the sand and those BMW's are a bit too much to handle when your talking miles and miles of arroyo sand. The KTM's are great Baja bikes although I have an XR650r down in Southern Baja that I like for it's bulletproof reliability.
A KTM 450 is definetly a RIPPER, its is in no way a detuned 525.

Too many good choices for you out there!!!

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hmm..in town around cabo san lucas and the baja california sur, there was a guy running around on an HP2, an R1150GS, and another on F650GS Dakar. figured i would be taking it easy with my selections.
Yeah, there are plenty of big trailees running around, but they seldom venture terribly far into the bush. The 950/990 enduros and adventures are probably the best big-mile Baja bikes - they've got the 21" front end to ride in sand/rocks, aren't too terribly heavy, and are nice 80+ highway bikes.

I did the high-performance dirt bike thing when I got back into it ten years ago - got a state-of-the-art ripper in a 300 EXC and proceeded to spend the next three years realizing that I was never going to zip through the woods at anything approaching the speeds this thing was capable of. On a DRZ now, I've found the trail bike that go anywhere the KTM could go, just not as fast. And I got a sweet little street bike in the bargain that is the perfect tool for light adventure touring and shorter local rides.

Why Honda hasn't dual-sported the XR650R is beyond me. This thing would be a great dual-sport adventure bike and would knock the pins out from under the KTM 640, BMW singles, KLR, DR650, and make big inroads into the big trail bike market. Honda has just lost all guts to go for anything other than the mainstream markets.

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A good used Honda XR650R is the answer to all
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True. I love my XR650L but I did'nt think it was hardcore enough for this group of bikes.
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I loved my XR650L too... But it was a heavy pig compared to todays smaller faster bikes. with my KTM I can swap front sprockets and dual sport ( Gravel road riding with maybe a mile or 2 of pavement) then swap the sprocket back for the tight trails.
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LOL I forgot about that post...


http://www.bmwforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3186.40
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Also, FWIW, you can buy a set of wheels/tires/disc brakes to convert the KTMs into supermotos for about $1,700. And KTM offers a factory warranty extension that adds 3 years for a total of 4...
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You need to update your sig line with a little orange.
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...so, Carlton slipped up and let us know about his new DIRTBIKE....please share Steve...let me innerdoche you to ADVRider...
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Okey dokey. Also, I heard the '08 450 has a new engine and frame. Dunno about the 525. Quite possible the '07s are long-gone Leon, too.

Not much to say so far, Rapido. Just got it up here a couple of weeks ago and finally got it registered a couple days ago. Sad to say, zero miles so far...
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...c'mon ...yo din't even take a pic?...which did you get, the KTM or the Husky?
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'realizing that I was never going to zip through the woods at anything approaching the speeds this thing was capable of'

don't fell bad, MJ. I usually scared myself once each ride with my 380, eszpecially after dialling in the powervalve to '125' specs.
holy yikes..a 50MPH 3rd gear wheelie between the trees in belfair is fun, but kinda like doing wheelies down I-5 at rush hour..sooner or leter it's gonna hurt.
One reason I motarded my 380 is that pavement, grooved slicks and tall gearing tame this animal just enough to be an incredible hooligan bike on the street.
I went to an XR250L (the totally street legal model) as they're much less violent, have way better range,a nd are relatively bulletproof.
consider this, RP; get a thrasher you won't cry over first.
I still say a DRZ400 is the perfect dualsport.
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consider this, RP; get a thrasher you won't cry over first.
I still say a DRZ400 is the perfect dualsport.
It is amazing how much the DRZ feels like a KDX200 in the woods. Yet has full street capability.
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wow, so much great information. all in the hopes of learning and developing my riding skills. you guys are great. still, my reservations about the bme g650X Challange remain. the others, well, some reservations about the husky, even though it is the best looking (both the 510 and 610); the ktms are sweet nonetheless. fun stuff.

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