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Rapid, what kind of antenna is that on the GS?

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Mo Dog you omitted pr5haps intentionally the F650 GS $7990 at Max BMW

Not gonna perfom like that 1150

I did get up to an indicated 105 MPH

I remember a Fundoro having hard time getting to 95 on the Kanamangus a few years ago
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Maybe it's the way I remember it, but it seemed my 1999 F650 was as fast or faster than the 2001 F650gs I had. I could consistently pin the old F650 at 110mph while the F650gs struggled around 103mph. Or the speedometer was ever worse on that bike.

But... the Newer style is so much more pleasing to the eye. Which is also why I can't go there with a KLR, even though they might, or might not be a better machine.
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The biggest problem I'd have with a GS of the R1200 variety is that I'd have to get those boots that KISS wore in order to touch the ground at a stop sign. Are all Germans 34" or greater in the stride? Tall bikes for short people are a big problem up in the hills where at times you need a long leg and a short one.

The F800GS could be the trick for the water cooled belt drive enthusiasts. The Ducati Hyper could be a good alternative with some box system cases and a beefy suspension. The rest of the cosmetics are already there if the frame is stressed for semi-off-road.
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The F800GS could be the trick for the water cooled belt drive enthusiasts.
Is there some reason why the f800gs would have to be belt driven? The F650CS was belt, while the traditional F650GS bikes were chain.
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All great bikes, I wonder how much of the adventure side is used after the "new" wears off. The next thread posted soon thereafter would be....."Why did I get rid of the S".......
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I have never said get rid of the S. I always felt that you need a stable full, just like other vehicles!
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Any F800 would be belt drive because the S and ST are already that way. You know that BMW will seek commonality to maximize the return on investment. Belt drive is very efficient but that argument/debate is on going in another thread. The F8GS would be able to at a more affordable price if BMW keeps the commonality theme going. I don't personally think you need the hp or weight for a combi bike. Something that's both rugged and comfortable for those who are tired of resting their tool shed on a tank.
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Had this same lust for a GS, wanted a SUV bike , ended up with the Buell XB12X,this was after lots of riding and research. Gs is probably the pick of all the duel purpose machines , for the same reasons the R11s was such a good bike. I wanted a different experience some dirt track exploration, but in reality, I only do a bit of dirt once in a while, these things all are a very big compromise as "off road" bikes , and my skills are in my head and in the past. I don't regret the Uly,it has a tractor engine, R11s gear box , no dealer network ( hardly dealers in Australia), R11s surge ( due to the way the emissions are met), also has Big Grin factor , great looks, good handling. I get as many people asking me what it is as I did with the S when it was new. Price was not part of my equation, but the XB12X is reasonable in Australia. Belt drive leaves shaft, and spare belt,( lifetime replacement guarantee), is easier to carry than spare shaft bits. I don't regret selling the S , I will buy another BM, I doubt if I'll buy another Buell, BMW is constantly implementing new technologies, Buell tries to work out how to put old technologies into nice handling frames.
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love the S look, could not ride em

been in lust with the bcr bikes since the first time I ever saw one-but ongoing tendonitis issues took me out of riding for 7 years. the evo brakes on an 03 KRS got me back in the saddle, and this year the lower bars and weight on the front tire of that machine moved me off it and onto an 05R1200GS!! All I can say wtf didn't I buy one of these sooner-like the minute they became available!!! I sat on the K bike in case I hated teh GS-after 500 miles, I couldn't wait to move that K along, this thing ROCKS!! Im an avid triple crowner since the beginning, and I have never been smoother or faster since I returned to riding in 03. BTW, it is unlikely this thing will ever see dirt-next set of tires will be street stickies, best street bike I've had yet (23rd bike in my adult life)

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The itch has been scratched

Well, after several months of wanting another more ventilated ride for the summertime, to go along with my RT, and road testing most of the new offerings, I was at the place where nothing inspired me to make a decision. Had to fit a budget and be a comfortable bike as well, my knees don't like to be folded up anymore. The RSV will be configured to track only, again, this time for good.

So, about three weeks a go I said to myself: self, you should have kept that '02 GS! It did everything well aside from being a little chilly on the coldest winter days. The very next Saturday I once again drove up to Touring Sport to kick tires, tell lies and drink coffee. As I pull in to park a very clean Yellow 1150GS catches my eye, no plate on it, hmmmm! Get out of the truck walk over and scope it out, only 4300 miles on the clock. Uh no...make that 431 miles...431 miles!!!

It's an '04 and is now parked at the house. Yee haaaw!!!!
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you know this discussion has been done before. And this is only on paper but isn't the the Triumph Ulysses a better value?

I haven't tried the new lighter weight 1200 GS, certianly seen it.

I'm thinking for motard(street use) the Duc hyper motard is primo.

For the trail whats wrong with a single cylinder of your choice?

To do both I dunno, so I'd go back in time and get an airhead I guess. Hey I';m thinking about getting a VW Microbus, I could drive that down 5' wide sidewalks and fit a 4x8 sheet of plywood inside.
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you know this discussion has been done before. And this is only on paper but isn't the the Triumph Ulysses a better value?
Triumph Tiger or Buell Ulysses?

I don't know anything personally about the Buell, but the new Tiger* is a fantastic street bike. To me, it seems similar to the R1100S in purpose and ability. I believe you can fit the Sprint's saddle bags (or something very similar) to the Tiger and get a fairly decent tourer.


*The previous generation Tiger had some off road ability, but that's been largely removed in the newest iteration.
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Any F800 would be belt drive because the S and ST are already that way. You know that BMW will seek commonality to maximize the return on investment.
I'd be shocked if any GS version of the F800 was produced with a belt drive. I agree they aim for commonality, but understand the trade offs (reliability of a belt drive in off road applications).

I see the Buell Ulysses uses a belt drive, but I guess I think BMW makes better bikes
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The " New " belts should be better than chains, I think belts are the future technologies . most people who have had belts prefer them to shafts and chains.
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I love the GS, but after just getting back from a 4-day, 600 mile tour of the WA Olympic peninsula on my DRZ, I'd say that if you have the garage space, don't try to do it all with a single bike.

The GS is a great all-arounder, but even on a mostly gravel forest service road route, there were at least half a dozen places where I would have been very uncomfortable on a 500-lb bike and a couple places where the DRZ got through easily where the GS wouldn't have, or would ahve sustained thousands in damages getting through, like a nasty stream crossing in 2 ft of fast water covered with slick boulders. And "not getting through" sometimes means a 50-mile backtrack.

While the DRZ wasn't terribly comfortable on the highway, I did 50-mile freeway stretches at 70 mph+ without major issue. On the tight twisties, I was untouchable.

The GS is really a comfy road bike that's slightly better on gravel roads than a pure street bike. If that's your envelope, great bike.

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I have 81,000 miles on my 1100GS. It still runs like new, no - better.
I am starting to think about a 1200 GS, but it's not that much different than my bike. I've ridden one with Ohlins. It's a fantastic back road bike, which is where I live, but it's not a good offroad machine. Too heavy. It's all I can do to lift it without getting hurt. It's the best road bike, all around, I've had over 40+ years. The 1150 is geared "taller" and seems made for the Autobahn. A good used 1100 will run you about $7K and they're good for many, many miles if they've been maintained.

I'm riding 4 days in the Sierras this weekend in the dirt and on dirt roads, and will take my XR 650 L. One bike will not do it all, alas.

San Jose BMW is making a chain drive kit for the 800's.
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I love the GS, but after just getting back from a 4-day, 600 mile tour of the WA Olympic peninsula on my DRZ, I'd say that if you have the garage space, don't try to do it all with a single bike.
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While the DRZ wasn't terribly comfortable on the highway, I did 50-mile freeway stretches at 70 mph+ without major issue. On the tight twisties, I was untouchable.

The GS is really a comfy road bike that's slightly better on gravel roads than a pure street bike. If that's your envelope, great bike.

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Did you carry any camping gear or anything like that on the DRZ? I can pick up a DRZ reasonably cheap with low miles and I am thinking of going that way. Then I can keep the S no problem. After returning for a 400+ mile this weekend through the backroads of the Catskills I still love the S. So comfy, so fast.
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After further review, I'm with Markjenn. When I had my '92 GS, I mostly used it as a road bike with quite a few rides on mostly civilized dirt roads. I did, however, actually go offfroad with it several times, and I can attest that it was a handful on a slippery single track or in deep hard ruts. More than once it slammed me down with some pretty shattering violence...and it was tough to pick up (especially in mud or on an off camber hillside)...and that was 7-10 years ago when I was a lot tougher than I am now.

That's why I find myself leaning more toward the KTM, Honda XR650L (with a bigger tank), or even the Suzuki DR650S...they are all fairly light and the Honda and Suzuki are aircooled (lighter and simpler)...and like stephen914, I had a great S ride this weekend through the Blackhills, and I'm leaving for Beartooth Hwy tomorrow morn on the way to visit a friend with two KTMs in Rossland, B.C...so it'll be good to have the S and a competent dualsport.
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