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Hey Dale, that's just what I was thinking.

At one time, in the not so distant past that FZR and GSXR were really hot stuff, bikes to die for. That guy with the old 1000 was able to keep up with the newer stuff no problem and since I'm coming off the S I would assume it must handle at least as good and maybe even better even though it is 7 years older. I'm 225 so a guy of 175 on the SV 650 Suzuki would certainly have an advantage ... wouldn't a few more hp make up for that?

My friend in Montreal knows bikes really well and has been racing for many years at Daytona and Mosport and Mid Ohio and way more ... even has set track records .. you should see him on his dirt Fazer ... a Fazer with motocross forks and rear, he was in Cycle Canada in February and they couldn't believe how wild he was ... a real character. I spent a lot of time following him and Brian Henderson and another friend who actually held #1 in Canada and showed me a lot so I trust their opinions .

And, most importantly .... I like the price!!!

I think the SV's are great but I'd buy a 748 or 749 if I had the bucks .... but like Brad said the best track bike is one you don't give a rat's ass about ... this would fit that bill. I'm going to look at it next week.

Just got back from dinner in the Byward Market and sat beside one of the faster guys who was riding in our group ... forget his name ... he's thinking about coming out on Monday too. And his GF is interested in my Suzuki 400.

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SV's are great track bikes. They do require some suspension and other upgrades, but a good cheap, available bike that is easy to not care about.
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I notice at a lot of track days that the fast guys are riding one of two types of bikes. SV650/1000's or old sport bikes, usually 400-1000 c.c. range. I never see the really fast guys, excluding the racers of course, on anything modern. Usually the ex-racers are right up there on bone stock machines.

I'm thinking Monday looks good. I'm leaving it until then to go up and register, no point paying ahead and being disappointed by the weather or called into work.
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Hey Dale,

I didn't see you there yesterday. I've got a long and sad tale to tell.

In the meantime how would this be for a track bike? 1995 GSXR 750, $2500 asking price


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What's with you and pink bikes Dan?
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it compliments my more feminine side

plus, I get to surprise them on the track cause they think I'm a pussy
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I'm among a dwindling minority that still uses a Honda Hawk 650 as a track (and sometimes street) bike. At one time, they were the SV650 of track bikes. I've got a bud who has a garage full of spare Hawk parts, and I can make a set of tires last for several track days. On tracks with long, high-speed straights, I just keep to the right and let the faster bikes blow past. Anyone can twist a throttle on a straightaway. Where's the skill there? Then the Hawk and I reel 'em in at the corners. And if the track should be a bit wet, that's a great equalizer when you've got a bike like a Hawk. Outdated and outgunned? Yessir. But still one of the most fun rides out there, IMO. And bullet-proof.
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Ask Roger about Hawks, he knows them well .... hard to find used ones.

I'm looking for something lighter and quicker steering with better cornering clearance ... stay tuned for my next new topic and you'll see why
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Agreed. I sold my streethawk, after years of threatening too, earlier this year. TrackHawk is about to go on the block.
I just put a better (used Supertrapp stainless) exhaust on it and need to reset the mixture and maybe jetting before selling it.
Still a lot of fun on all but the fastest, most-open tracks. And fun even then for a few years. Just can't justify a 2nd trackbike anymore. I'll probably regret it, as the cash won't be great (probably half what I have into it) But I need the space, as I smell a shock dyno in my future.

Hawks are cool
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'I'm looking for something lighter and quicker steering with better cornering clearance ... stay tuned for my next new topic and you'll see why'
then it's time for a TZ250!
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Jony .. find me a used one for $2000 and I'll take it!
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no, here's what you need...:
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Chassis/Body: Air Tech Aurora bodywork, Marchesini 17" 3 spoke magnesium rims, Yoshimura Triple clamps/KYB forks (CBR900 kit), Brembo Goldline calipers & 320mm rotors, Brembo 19X20 racing master cylinder, Ohlins Shock, Motion Pro throttle, PBI hard anodized gearing, EK 530 chain, Goodrich braided lines, Autometer Tach, Daytona water temp gage, MVR rearsets, rear suspension link and plates, Chopped subframe, Titanium swingarm pivot, and more.
Engine: MVR ported head, stainless valves, mild cams, Falicon Supercrank (knife edged, balanced, charging system removed), Carrillo forged Rods, Wiseco 945cc Piston Kit (72mm), HRC Ignition box, MVR ceramic coated/tapered Exhaust, Total loss ignition, '97 F3 Oil Pan & pickup to reduce windage, Factory shift kit and billet covers, and more.
Spares: second engine, ram-airbox, and more.
$4200 (plus shipping) takes it all.
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holy crap .... must have cost a bundle to build that ... just one really important question .... is it pink
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Ole Danny boy i guess you didnt get this one right then?
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oooh, maybe you need my old Hawk.
It's very light, narrow, chock full of cornering clearance, and very well suspended (Fox and full Honda F3 cartridge front end with gold valves and springs, and all new chassis bearings)
Too bad you don't live closer by. It would fit the bill to a tee.
Good luck finding something at any rate. Be patient and there are some great deals.
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I love the Hawk GT's, they defined the modern standard bike.
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Hey Roger, how much $$ ??

Convince Bob Hancock to buy my old RS and I'll buy your Hawk

I suppose shipping and border stuff is a hassle ...
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And what about the GSXR I posted .... besides the color, of course ... good track bike ...probably get it for $2k ???
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Dan,

Remeber the single sided NSR/RCV looking bike that we thought was a 250 or 400 Honda at the last track day; it was a 650 Hawk. I'd buy that in a heartbeat. Something about old bikes and rebuilding makes it all worthwhile.

I say go for the old stuff. That GSXR may not be the perfect race bike but it's a very good track bike. A few minor modifications and you are on your way. Get new springs, shock etc. to make it new again in the suspension department, a tune up, and you are ready to go.

Plus GSXR's have the enviable record of tons of aftermarket kit for them. They enjoy a support few others do.

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