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Not normal!

A sunny 14 degrees centigrade, 57f today in Holland where it should be just above freezing. Another step towards a sub-tropical climate before the next ice age kicks in...

Anyway, great day for riding. Too bad I've to wait another week for the GS!

What was your day like?
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Old 02-09-2008, 10:13 AM
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snowing ... 29F...really crap day
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Snowed the past three days with another one on the way tonight. The most snow we've had in the last few winters.....
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In the last week, Ice, a couple of inches of snow, raining now, but forecast 50 MPH winds and temps falling into the teens by tomorrow night.

Yup, it is winter, but really not bad for this time of year here.
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Snow and more snow here. It cam e early and has melted to the ground twice and we have 4 feet still on the ground with more dropping. It has been mild but lots of snow.
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25 deg Celsius today, perfect for the leathers and a thermal liner. I'm off for a ride after breakfast. Heading up into the hills
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Typical California day, warm weather and lots of sunshine
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...took the RT out for a nice and sunny trip...



...and put the Ralf-stuff on the S...
...for a bit of decal-tuning...

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-2F (-16C) with wind chill to -20F (-29C). Clear, COLD, with a predicted warm up (to a big +17F) and 1-2 inches of snow tonight.

We have more water inventory sitting on the ground in snow/ice than fell from the sky 7 years ago in one of the worst flooding episodes in recent history. No drought here. The spring thaw, should it ever arrive, will be interesting.

Oregon-Washington-NoCal have 200% of normal snow pack in Cascade Mountains. Atlanta is still like 50+ inches behind on rain. Maybe they can contract some Martians to start building canals...
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i put on a long sleeve t-shirt over my regular t-shirt to go walk the dogs this morning.
had to take off the long sleeve and just wear the t-shirt, because it was getting too warm.

another 70 degree day in SoCal.
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yeah.
right.
We have so much snow that all the mountain passes across the cascades are closed.
And I don't have a snowmachine anymore.
A Vmax with an MCExpress turbo would do nicely right about now...
Whoda' thunk global warming would lead to record snowfalls....the results of unintended consequences.
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Whoda' thunk global warming would lead to record snowfalls....the results of unintended consequences.
Heck, if it gets any warmer, I'm gonna have to get some new powder skis!
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Another warm winter here. Last ten years or more, progressively warmer winters and rainier summers. Only saw a week of snowfall around new year's time and then it all melted, while for this region it used to be normal for snow to stay most of the winter.
Can't say if global warming is the cause, because local weather is no evidence at all. That's why it's called global warming. And, if i understand it correctly, most of the warming is happenning where we want it least; at the poles. This can cause unpredictable weather in other parts of the world, because the energy of the weather system is steadily increasing. I hope this makes sense to someone.
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Another sub-zero day here!! -40+ with the whindchill.

You know it is cold when your Colombia makes sounds like it is made out of old brittle plastic.

Man it has been a cold winter so far this year, however at the same time we are actually getting a lot of snow like we did when I was a kid. I think I heard that we actually have more snow this year already than we had all last year. I love the snow but I don't like the really cold stuff like today.

The only drawback to all the ice and snow is that counties are running out of salt and they have started using more sand and gravel on the roads. I can't wait for spring to come with all those suprises coming around the corners....EEEK!!!
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I agree, it is the extra energy in the weather "engine" that is causing it to oscillate through greater extremes. If Al Gore really wanted to do something about "carbon footprint" the jerk would be screaming for planned parenthood!

But I seem to remember a statement that Mars is also in a period of "global warming" and since humanity has zero carbon footprint on that planet, I suspect Al Gore is crying wolf or telling us the sky is falling.

For fun, Google "martian global warming". The first hit is a National Geographic article from Feb 2007. Nat. Geographic is about as "official" as you can get!
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Just curious................what is the "normal" global temp? Is it what was 100 years ago, 1000 years or what. Some say that global warming ( if it is occuring at all) must be bad, why, are we going to an "ideal" temp, comming from an "ideal" temp, what is the "ideal" earths's temp?

Just Askin..........
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I believe "average" for central United States is about 57F. Basically you drill a hole in the ground down deep enough to find a stable temperature, and that's "average" for that location.

But ice boring in Greenland produces layers with different temps, both up and down, over the millennia. Too bad the dinosaurs didn't keep better records!
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Moybin:

I'd say comparing Marssian and Earth weather is like comparing apples and oranges at best. But that's beside the point anyway.

The point to the "unnatural" global warming are not unnusual temperatures, as the Earth has had many extremely cold and warm periods throughout it's history. The point is that the climate change is happening waaaay too fast. It's basicaly a runaway scenario with a tipping point and there's really no controversy about that. The only controversy is about wether or not human influence is sufficient enough to move climate change towards the tipping point, and if it is, how close are we to it.

I shouldn't have to say that, if the tipping point is reached, the consequences would be far worse than if human industry and economy is curbbed to allow for less pollution. But i don't expect any moderation to happend, because profit comes first, as usual.


I believe that the future of human race is going to be parallel to that of the native north americans. During the migrations from Asia to America these settlers have exterminated many local animal and plant species and devastated the land. Once the "water came to the neck" it was adapt or perish, so today native americans have a traditional sense of ecology and nature balance.
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