Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog Tech Info Tech Forums
 
  Search our site:    
 Cart  | Project List | Order Status | Help    
Go Back   Pelican Parts Technical BBS > 2- BMW Forums > BMW Technical Forums > BMW R1100S / R1200S Tech Forum

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rating: Thread Rating: 5 votes, 4.20 average.
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered User
 
peter f's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: greece
Posts: 1,800
Quote:
Originally Posted by AZ-Twin View Post
The Can buss is different technology, but is it less reliable than multiple sensors wired to the computer?

Lots of you guys know every wire on these bikes, what are the major weaknesses of the engine control system on the newer bikes?

Just curious
Controlled Area Network (CAN) gizmology = transmitting info between all power consuming things AND control units AND sensors using a single wire (less size, weight and loom complexity). The network can easily expand (more gizmos). This tech-no-freak thing negates the use of conventional fuses/relays - only the starter motor (hope NOT a Valeo sourced thing) uses a relay.

Q: Is this a good thing my doctor?

Erm...when in Sahara ...maybe not... (R100GS for me please).

Sum up:

1. when on tarmak > be as tech freak as you like (consider even buying an MV F4S...God help us).

2. when in the wild > be as primitive as you can (consider the bicycle option as well).

He He
Old 03-27-2008, 08:44 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #61 (permalink)
Living on borrowed time!
 
JonyRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tacoma, WA, USA
Posts: 6,950
What'[s with all the people here from Sierra Vista.
last time I was at Ft. Geshunditd (Huachucha) SV was some podunk little town. Has it grown up THAT much?
And do you see the pretty monochromatic lights in the sky dazzling their intended targets?
__________________
Better a has-been than a wanna-be

'I am John Andrew Moffett of the Clan Moffat and by god I live, love, seek, fail, grieve and die as I so choose and I call no man master save me'.
Old 03-27-2008, 09:27 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #62 (permalink)
Living on borrowed time!
 
JonyRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tacoma, WA, USA
Posts: 6,950
I've ridden my S up way worse dirt roads that that picture....when I go DIRT riding, I need a real DIRT bike, and a GS ain't that thing. Yeah, I know you can trailride it, but you'll need a CH54 skycrane to get it back up on 2 wheels WHEN you biff it (not IF you do, WHEN you do, because when you ride in the dirt you WILL fall down..sooner or later).
But whatever floats your skirt.
I personally think the CANBUS BMW/K technology is too complex for a true offroader. I've had to do some pretty extensive jackleg repairs 38 mi from BFE and the complexity of VBMW/K is just too much for a primitive outing. In my opininated opinion *grin*.
See you on the Rubicon (or Natches) Trail...
__________________
Better a has-been than a wanna-be

'I am John Andrew Moffett of the Clan Moffat and by god I live, love, seek, fail, grieve and die as I so choose and I call no man master save me'.
Old 03-27-2008, 09:33 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #63 (permalink)
Private Citizen
 
AZ-Twin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
Posts: 4,029
Quote:
Originally Posted by JonyRR View Post
What'[s with all the people here from Sierra Vista.
last time I was at Ft. Geshunditd (Huachucha) SV was some podunk little town. Has it grown up THAT much?
And do you see the pretty monochromatic lights in the sky dazzling their intended targets?
weather
__________________
Rob Swartzwelder llllllllllllllll 97 M900, 07 R1200s(sold), 07 G650X Challenge, 2011 KTM ADV 990R
(Brad Z on CF Dampeners)"it's the perfect blend of sophistication and bling."
(Roger A on moderation) "
Note to thin-skins and panty-bunchers - please note smiley."

Last edited by AZ-Twin; 03-27-2008 at 09:56 AM..
Old 03-27-2008, 09:51 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #64 (permalink)
Living on borrowed time!
 
JonyRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tacoma, WA, USA
Posts: 6,950
When I worked for EPG (US Army Electronic Proving Ground, Ft. huachuca AZ/Ft. Lewis WA Field Office) I got to do and test bunches of really neet keen stoff (for a hardware and software junkie) there.
Some very interesting things go on...it's amazing what they can do with frequency-modulated monochromatic light as a carrier signal and UHF microwave energy directed towards various and sundry objects on the ground or in the air. The military industrial complex been veddy veddy good to me in years past...but honestly, it's still too close to Old Mexico for my taste and comfort. I had a good buddy move back from there as he was tired of trying to defend his ranch from the human and drug trafficers swarming across the (non-existant) border.
I LOVE the Pima air museum, though...there's an SR71 there, also...
__________________
Better a has-been than a wanna-be

'I am John Andrew Moffett of the Clan Moffat and by god I live, love, seek, fail, grieve and die as I so choose and I call no man master save me'.
Old 03-27-2008, 10:10 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #65 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 11,162
I stayed in SV once when I was stationed at Williams AFB. Went down to see Tombstone which my dad had always wanted to see. I guess I'd like the climate there from Nov-early May. There I'd have to head up toward Show Low on the rim. Thanks for the history lesson John.
Old 03-27-2008, 10:23 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #66 (permalink)
 
Now Available for Ordering:   101 Projects For Your BMW 3 Series 1982-2000  [more info]
Private Citizen
 
AZ-Twin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
Posts: 4,029
Sierra Vista has grown significantly in the last few years. We now have a small shopping mall, Home Depot, and some of the nicer chain restaurants. If it grows much more we will have too many people. We already have traffic, and crime. It is not the “podunk little town” it used to be unfortunately.
__________________
Rob Swartzwelder llllllllllllllll 97 M900, 07 R1200s(sold), 07 G650X Challenge, 2011 KTM ADV 990R
(Brad Z on CF Dampeners)"it's the perfect blend of sophistication and bling."
(Roger A on moderation) "
Note to thin-skins and panty-bunchers - please note smiley."
Old 03-27-2008, 11:07 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #67 (permalink)
Barback King
 
Rapid Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: just west of Hell
Posts: 11,471
BMW Roundel

Quote:
Originally Posted by peter f View Post
Well gentlemen...if you really need something unstoppable, "primitive" and cheap R100GS ..
...

thank yo Mr. Peter...



__________________
R11S CNC BARBACKS
'14 F800GT - I had an S once...
Old 03-27-2008, 03:51 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #68 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Richmond, VA.
Posts: 7


Give in Bohahahahahahah
Old 03-27-2008, 04:15 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #69 (permalink)
Ghost Spoiler
 
chewie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: East Gippsland, Australia
Posts: 3,061
Garage
This guy picks up a K12LT
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsdzdm35lbI&feature=related

This chick picks up an R Tourer
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sP3cqKbOEs

Last edited by chewie; 03-27-2008 at 09:42 PM..
Old 03-27-2008, 08:28 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #70 (permalink)
Uh....who me?
 
Bob Hancock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: North Georgia
Posts: 8,496
A petite lady in our GA club used to give those demo's often. Trick is to use your legs and position your butt as shown. Not sure if it works for something like either of my Ducati's that lay over flat. Then you just need to muscle it. But of course I've never garage dropped a bike so I wouldn't know.
__________________
Bob Hancock
'14 R1200GSW, '14 F800GSA, '10 690EnduroR, '11 WR250R, '88 R100RS
"There are times when good words are to be left unsaid out of esteem for silence." St. Benedict
Old 03-27-2008, 08:46 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #71 (permalink)
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 11,162
I want someone to invent airbags that deploy to prevent the scratches that occur during a garage/parking lot 0 mph drop. lol I traded in a Road King because I had to wait until someone came along to help. But, I was on the side of a steep intersection. For this old man, lite is right for beverage and bike.
Old 03-28-2008, 05:31 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #72 (permalink)
Living on borrowed time!
 
JonyRR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Tacoma, WA, USA
Posts: 6,950
LOL.
Each to his/her own mechanical contrivance (I never got the whole GS thing as I'm old-school and ride a 'real' dirt bike, if you can call an XR-L real, another KTM is coming)
but
Picking up a RoadKing, while heavy, is kinda doable....on pavement.
Picking up an R1200GS, tipped over in a downward-sloping mudhole and stuck in up to the saddlebags is a whole 'nother universe. That's when you call AAA and get in a D-9 cat to yard that battleship anchor up and, *maybe* out *grin*.
__________________
Better a has-been than a wanna-be

'I am John Andrew Moffett of the Clan Moffat and by god I live, love, seek, fail, grieve and die as I so choose and I call no man master save me'.
Old 03-28-2008, 07:19 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #73 (permalink)
Do not take too seriously
 
throttlemeister's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Netherlands
Posts: 3,319
Garage
Did that with an FJR1300 (don't ask) and it was just doable. Barely. The adrenaline probably had a big part in that too.
__________________
BMW R1100S 'Bumble Bee' | HyperPro 3D F&R | motoyoyo clamps | Staintune | some other bits
BMW K1200S 'tri-color ICBM' | WP ESA rebuild to specifications | lots of other bits

http://www.sport-touring.eu | http://eurotravel.photos

Last edited by throttlemeister; 03-28-2008 at 07:25 AM..
Old 03-28-2008, 07:23 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #74 (permalink)
...elica rossa...
 
RoLoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 5,366
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by throttlemeister View Post
Did that with an FJR1300 (don't ask)...
...now we want to know...
__________________
Have a nice day !
Ron.

Triumph Speed Triple T509 955i + R1200S + R1200RT
Old 03-28-2008, 08:24 AM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #75 (permalink)
Endurologist
 
rob_wijhenke's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2000
Location: Amsterdam
Posts: 1,708
Come on guys, stick with the GS topic, this is going all over the place



__________________
The Latest is the Greatest
'09 HP2 Enduro - '06 m620 - '08 Koga XPM-M

CB200, XS750, GL1000, GL1100, R80RT, 2xK75S, F650, RF600, ZF600R, 750ss, 888corsa, 900ss, 3xR1100S, K1200R, R1200S, R1200GS
Old 03-28-2008, 02:39 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #76 (permalink)
Barback King
 
Rapid Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: just west of Hell
Posts: 11,471
You Pussies Get In Line...

...only real BIG men ride 'em...you can pick this one up over at ADVRider for $17,5K! ...and that's a steal!

__________________
R11S CNC BARBACKS
'14 F800GT - I had an S once...
Old 03-28-2008, 03:08 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #77 (permalink)
Ghost Spoiler
 
chewie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: East Gippsland, Australia
Posts: 3,061
Garage
Spent 3 hours sleeping in this morning dreaming about going outside to the shed, getting my gear on and going for a squirt on a GS1150...I think I'm on the improve

Here's a couple of pics...just because




Last edited by chewie; 03-28-2008 at 03:55 PM..
Old 03-28-2008, 03:52 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #78 (permalink)
 
Now available:  101 Projects for Your Porsche Boxster!
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Central Ohio
Posts: 161
"I'll never own more than one BMW at a time - they're just too fussy to have more than one."- Mark

Oooops!
__________________
Craig G.
Old 05-12-2008, 02:20 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #79 (permalink)
Barback King
 
Rapid Dog's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: just west of Hell
Posts: 11,471
mondo owie!


... afriend told me today that if oyu put a deposit on an F800GS now, you'll have it by June '09....rumor?
__________________
R11S CNC BARBACKS
'14 F800GT - I had an S once...

Last edited by Rapid Dog; 05-12-2008 at 03:20 PM..
Old 05-12-2008, 02:27 PM
  Recommend this thread for the PelicanWiki    Reply With Quote #80 (permalink)
Old 05-12-2008, 02:27 PM
Reply

Thread Tools
Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

 



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 12:47 PM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2011 Pelican Parts - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.