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Right cylinder sensor = MIA !!!
Well friends
I know that Greece receives (maybe) second "class" Beemers but ...erm...this...goes a bit toooo far > I've just discovered that on my 07 R12S bike the right cylinder temperature sensor (sits "between" throttle body and knock sensor) is ...erm...well... just an empty hole. Good news > left cylinder has the thing in place. Moral : I'm working on it.  
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07-05-2008, 06:49 AM
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Mine is the same, I just looked.
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07-05-2008, 07:46 AM
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sensor is only on one side... Greece or elsewhere!
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07-05-2008, 09:01 AM
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1.Haynes Service manual R12S electrical diagrams clearly identify TWO sensors. 2.EVERY 12GS here in Greece has TWO sensors as well.
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07-05-2008, 09:40 PM
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Yeah, you Ding-Dong... the GS's do... but you OWN A 12S!!! and they don't!
 Shows you what Haynes knows... lol The 12S's really only have one... don't ask me why... I am only the messenger, Peter!
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07-05-2008, 10:14 PM
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...I just checked... ...and I have'm on both sides !... ...and I'm not joking !... ...I can share a picture if you want...
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07-05-2008, 10:15 PM
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You touching the bottle again, Ron??/ LOL
I mean, you ARE seeing double where it should not be!
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07-05-2008, 10:19 PM
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...and the answer is : 'yes....'  ...but I still got two of those sensor-thingies... ...I'll share the pictures ; one (or two...) moments pleez...
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07-05-2008, 10:43 PM
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...I'm back...
 right  (and 'no' this is not some kind of a S.Carlton Photoshop attempt by me...) left  ...and yeah, yeah...; I know, I have to clean the bike... 
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Got 2
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07-05-2008, 11:50 PM
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...elica rossa...
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...real men got 2...
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07-06-2008, 12:17 AM
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Well isn't this odd?
Ron, there is obviously something wrong with your bike, you better get it down to the dealership ASAP!
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07-06-2008, 12:36 AM
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Well gentlemen,
I'm gonna sue Motorrad AG (I'm working hard right now to find some decent argument(s)) and I'm gonna earn zillions (how's possible to lose that debate?) from that. I'm gonna bring Ron's bike to the court (Muzza are you willing to help?) giving the term "hard evidence" a whole new meaning (are bikes allowed to enter the court?). I'm gonna share with Ron (and Muzza) some decent percentage ...say 0.004% each...for their help. Moral : Zillions don't go away...wait for me. He He
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07-06-2008, 12:51 AM
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07-06-2008, 12:54 AM
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Looking at parts fiche at MAX BMW I see the quantity for the temp sensor changed based on date of manufacture.
http://www.maxbmwmotorcycles.com/fiche/MainDiagrams.asp?VIN=%20ZP3036  01 11127701011 left cylinder head, black BUY 1 $505.71 01 11127701012 right cylinder head, black BUY 1 $505.71 02 11127669436 isa screw with washer (M10X85) - Up to 04/2007 BUY 2 $5.15 02 11127708026 isa screw with washer (M10X90) - 04/2007 and above BUY 2 $5.15 03 12727674454 sensor plate BUY 1 $8.18 05 07129905537 isa screw with washer (M6X30- ZNNIV SI) BUY 6 $1.00 06 07129904831 isa screw (M6X12) BUY 2 $1.91 07 07129908149 stud bolt (M8X30-ZN) BUY 2 $0.50 08 11127672598 cyl. head gasket, 3 components BUY 2 $43.72 09 12627673407 temperature sensor with cable - Up to 08/2006 BUY 2 $61.05 09 12627673407 temperature sensor with cable - 08/2006 and above BUY 1 $61.05 10 12137680895 covering left BUY 1 $11.69 10 12137680896 covering right BUY 1 $12.18 11 07129903805 isa screw (M6X12) BUY 4 $1.66 12 07129904965 isa screw (M6X10) NA Part not available. Call for more info. 2 13 07129903979 torx screw (M6X20) BUY 2 $1.10 14 12727674768 camshaft speed sensor BUY 1 $53.46 15 07129903027 isa screw (M6X14) BUY 1 $1.14 16 07119904844 o-ring (44X3) BUY 1 $2.00 17 12727694010 o-ring (17X2) BUY 1 $1.78
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07-06-2008, 01:31 AM
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Erm...
...That says something like " Oops we did a wrong one" not "sorry, only one available - on the left" That said (my bike) appears that there's no wiring loom available for that MIA right side sensor. PS: could be this the reason (different circuit resistance) for my "high" temp problems? (see Non stock exhausts VS hot boxers ). Reason for asking is that Haynes CLEARLY provide a second sensor input on ECU's 20/65 "slot" (Cyl 2, that is)
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Oops ...stupid me > just noticed the quantity thing (1 VS 2).
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Just checked mine and it has 2 sensors, one on each side. This is really weird. Can't say why they would leave out a sensor on some bikes and not on the others. Is this somehow related to the manufacturing date?
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There are two R12S's at my house right now. Mine has one sensor on the left cylinder and the visitor (an early VIN #) has two. The tiny things we learn hanging around here....huh?
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07-06-2008, 06:11 AM
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In that case, I might be a cost cutting issue...
After all, the price at the microfiche Rob puled out states $61.05...
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07-06-2008, 06:24 AM
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2006 BMW R1200S
2011 BMW R 1200 RT
