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NEVER trust a mirror. Objects may be closer than they appear or look 10 pounds heavier. What next, a roll bar or maybe engine guards? lmao

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Old 02-18-2012, 03:24 AM
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nice work szabo, if Oberon doesn't make the extenders I am in.
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Szabo;
The HP2 mirror can be unbolted from the base. Would the base just bolt up to the S1000RR mirror?

Do you have a link to the video of the mirrors?

I would be in for a pair of mounts also!

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I definately would be in, that is a great idea. As long as you get on this soon. Otherwise its drill away!
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Anyone know of a proper HP2S mirror delete kit? The plastic bodywork I have on mine is so flimsy the mirrors shake way too much to even be useful. I think I want to junk the stock ones, and just go with a simple bar end mirror like I had on my old 900SL.
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Macfly;

Both Peter and I tried bar ends......we decided they did not work.

Why would you need a delete kit as the mirrors just unbolt and leave a small hole.
Fill the holes with some kind of body panel plug.

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Both Peter and I tried bar ends......we decided they did not work.

Why would you need a delete kit as the mirrors just unbolt and leave a small hole.
Fill the holes with some kind of body panel plug.

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I'm curious as to why you think bar end mirrors don't work. I have a single CRG Lane Splitter on mine and it works just fine. What did you not like about them?
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We both bought a pair of CRG Arrow's......while the quality was excellent, we both found they were too far out of your field of vision and that the view was just too small.

I like to know what is going on around me, and after having a few bikes sneak up on me and take me by surprise I decided to find another solution.

Maybe the Lane Splitter gives a better view, but I thought it did not fit the lines of the bike.

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I got a response from Oberon who makes the sweet Ducati mirror extenders, I also sent a reply:

Hi Jeff,

I beleive the volume will be far too low to make this work commercially, we would need to expect sales of 150 pairs minimum in the first 6 months to be able to make them for approximately 100 per pair. For us this would also need to be yearly sales of 300 pairs to eventually get back the R&D costs, how many 'interested' parties do you have so far?
I should also add we have not yet studied a bike for ourselves to evaluate the design criteria, so these are 'ball park' figures.

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Steve,

Thanks for your response, as far as interested parties, I probably know about 10, but they are just the owners on the Pelican Parts Technical Forum. The reality is that there were 2500 HP2 Sports made worldwide, but they all suffer from the mirror problem. The mirrors allow almost no visibility of anything other than your elbows. These bikes are also predominately used on the street, even though the mirrors were designed for easy removal for track purposes. The majority of these bikes are in Germany, and if you do a quick Google search you will see that many owners are trying things such as mounting up S1000RR mirrors, even though it requires drilling through the carbon fiber body work. I actually do think you could recover your R&D costs and sell your 150 unit quota, but it will require some targeted marketing activity on your part, there are some BMW only motorcycle publications that might get a lot of interest.

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Photo's of S1000RR mirrors on the HP2 here courtesy of Madmartin.............
HP2S Mirrors - BMW Sport Riders & Racers Forum

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that looks like it would do the trick!
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S1000RR Mirrors rendering for HP2 Sport

Ok so last month I posted the photos of the S1000RR mirrors that I purchased and then disassembled to see what it would take to change the mirror base to match the existing hole pattern of the HP2 Sport fairing. It has taken a lot of time between other projects, but I was able to get the design drawn and ready for the 1st test piece hopefully in the next week or so. The bracket will be hidden under the rubber covering and probably can use the stock bolts. I am thinking that it will be better to use nuts on the inside and a small black backing piece due to the increased leverage of the longer mirror. Will post a pic of the test piece after it is grown on the mill.
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thats pretty cool Szazbo and I guess if I already owned a set of S1000RR mirrors then that is the solution I would want, but the mirrors are going to cost me $180 for the pair plus whatever your part is, I would just rather have the right extender and use the stock mirrors. how about a second round on the drawing board and doing something like this?

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Mirror extensions

Hey Shredder, that is actually where I started with extensions for the stockers but really didnt think that the look was worth the effort.
The stockers are unusual where the metal base unit is a tapered unit from the base to where the mirror attaches to the base. From here it continues to taper up the mirror stalk. We need the mirrors to be up about an inch and out at least two inches. I first drew a piece that went between the base and fairing that accomplished that but really looked like aftermarket cheese with 3 distinctive sections. Then I came up with a piece that replaced the metal lower section that had the extension requirements. Looked a little better because there were only two sections, but this proved that the real place that needed the extension was the mirror housing.
The skinny section of the mirror "stalk" is really the correct place to grow the mirror out and have it look properly. So a complete new mirror housing and use the original base was the best looking and functional option.
So I tried to remove the mirror glass from a stocker to see if this was possible and also the pivot mechanisim. If I was able to get it out then possible purchasers could do the same. No Luck, broke the mirror pivot and ruined the mirror. This option was also going to cost a lot more because 2 molds had to be made and this was very expensive especially considering the the quantity that would be made.
I abandoned all of this for my current solution as it is more appropriate for the masses and looks good, reasonable costs and no mods to the bike.
We made the first S1000RR / HP2 pivot out of plastic today before doing one out of aluminum to see how the design worked. A few more slight changes and I should have it sorted out. I also get 20% off on stockers so can pass that on for those interested, and will proably sell some of the brackets alone and modified new mirrors for those less handy with doing the mod themselves.
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Put me in for a kit!

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great explanation Szazbo, i'm in for a set too, let me know if you need payment in advance.
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I drilled this past weekend not thinking this would be happening so soon....grrr.
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I drilled this past weekend not thinking this would be happening so soon....grrr.
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HP2 Sport Mirror update

Sorry for the delay in communicating the progress of these mirror mounts. Had to do some jobs that were necessary to pay the rent and buy a bag of groceries. So here is the latest picture after making about 4 prototypes and making slight adjustments to the CAD file each time. It was made using the quick prototype machine. It is machined out of plastic to save time and money, but the final piece will be out of aluminum and might have a slightly different shape to ease the machining process. The point of the quick prototype is to get all the important dimensions in the correct locations and then it can be transferred to aluminum. Still have another change to make with the female slots to maximize engagement but almost ready for the metal version. Next update will not take as long.


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I just picked up a used set of S1000RR mirrors, so I will be waiting for the mounts before the install!
Thanks Szabo, those look great!

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