You should root for both, and it's not a breach of etiquette, given that they're in different series.

I'm more torn on wsbk. Love local (for me) club-racer-made good Ben Spies, vs long-time fav ducs and Nori, vs my much longer love, BMWs. Long as Suzuki doesn't sneak in with a great bike under Max N, I should be a happy camper, at least until I finally choose sides. Gonna be a killer year.

Bring it on!
 

Except taken from mcnews.com.au

The official Phillip Island lap record is held by Corser with a 1:31.826

Cosers is a master at Phillip Island -- he has won seven time since 1996 - and if there is anyone who can go beyond the call in front of his home crowd it's the two-time world champion.

"I am particularly impressed with the power my BMW produces, which you certainly need at a fast and flowing circuit like Phillip Island, which has one of the highest average speeds of any race track in the world" said Corser. "Also, chassis set-up is critical, as you need a machine that will 'fight' all the forces ast play - including some ferocious winds that sometimes come off Bass Straight!"
"That's what I'll be concentrating on this weekend, and we'll continue to work hard as a team. I'm confident we'll be really competitive by the time Phillip Island comes around, as it's going to be a momentous occassion for BMW"

Das no-one read what the dry weight realy is !?
162 KG !!!

Whauw ... and de compressionratio 14:1 :eek:
they must be driving on iso-octaan more than 100 !!!

Setting fire on 1l benzin = 32 MJ (=8,9 kWh) energy .SmileWavy

What did you think, they are using Pump-Gas???

Implying....
 

Are you implying that I made this up!?

Man, you are funny!
BTW, new official pictures! (I didn't make thees up either!)
http://www.gpone.com/DB/Foto_2009_02...MAanttre_G.jpg
http://www.gpone.com/DB/Foto_2009_02...frontale_G.jpg
http://www.gpone.com/DB/Foto_2009_02...sttrequa_G.jpg

no jonas, but i'm jaded about anybody putting out a release and tossing out numbers like that.
especially something like "200+". the space shuttle is "200+".
plus what? a thousandth of a pony....at the wrist pin?
plus five? plus fifty?
plus "we know how much, but we don't want the competition to know?" (like it wouldn't be obvious anyway?).
"approximately 207 HP" might have been more honest. and possibly just as accurate.
so would "not available".

if it were mine, i would have listed it at 276-. it's just as revealing and truthful as the bmw number.

yup
 

[QUOTE=bradzdotcom;4491738]plus "we know how much, but we don't want the competition to know?" (like it wouldn't be obvious anyway?).
"approximately 207 HP" might have been more honest. and possibly just as accurate.
so would "not available".
QUOTE]

I would say that the reason they put it on paper, is not to scare the opposition (They probably won't care anyway), it's for the only reason BMW prints anything - You and Me! They want us to be impressed and go and order one as soon as possible! Don't you think?
Marketing - When people believe what you say! (New motivational poster maybe?) :)

[QUOTE=Jonas The Swede;4491754]
You are absolutely right Jonas, A rolling introduction with lots of teasers is the way that you build an excited audience and prospective customer base and brand following. True advertising is the accumulation of impressions and inputs that build but develop a strong positive and familiarity to what you are promoting. A positive roll out over time is great for a positive result.

A strong WSB showing will be the icing on the cake. :p

[QUOTE=Deans BMW;4491818] Bingo, and might I add, that is a pretty bike!!!

That is funny... how can 200+ HP be impressive, when the rest of the field is in the 220+ range???

Is this another one of those brilliant marketing strategies? Hey, we are cool because we have 20+ ponies less that the competition... buy our bikes!

And, what in heavens name does the race bike have to do with the street bike anyway?... other than the general shape of the bike...

So you think that 220+ is more than 200+. What makes you think so, saying that 200+ is more than 220+ is an equal statement.

I would suggest that both have an equal chance of being more than 220.

Just saying.

A good poker player never shows all of his cards.

Its going to be just like last Daytona...........Nay Sayer whiners........saying they will be luckey to even qualify........then they finish 5 and 6 overall........first time out. The Island will be the same way............predictable thick-bubble thinking by Ducati worshipers and "wish-I-had-ones" who in their heart think of BMWs as touring bikes. ONE of the new BMW bikes will be in the top ten or I lick a stamp for everybody on the list........................

With any luck at all, perhaps a mist of rain even, BMW could well land a hard fought 5th place at the Island. Churp and Tweet

This is doing just what the BMW marketeers wanted. The BMW crowd is talkin' it up. One on one conversations will sell bikes--if the price is ballpark competitive. That Triumph 675 Daytona Triple show loos good.;)

Been thinking about watching for a nice used 2009 in a couple of years. Might just be the ticket.

I remember....
 

Yeah, I remember when I first read about the spec's on the HP2S and was a little annoyed that it said, top speed 200+ km/h! But then again it was never a speed monster! ;-)

Well I don't mind them selling more bikes, in fact, I'm incouraging them to! :D

I saw a very clean Gixxer 600 at Town and Country today, Bob. Used. Didn't ask about the price but I bet they'd love to move it.:D

First, a good poker player never shows ANY of his cards until it's time to do so... and second, if you have 220+... why don't you say it? It is much more impressive than saying 200+

What do you gain by lowballing, if you have the HP?

You are not impressing the squids you are trying to impress, I guarantee you that... and a few geezers like us who may or may not decide to buy that thing will NOT make it worthwhile for BMW to invest that much money!

You mean like your "Telelever and shaft drive über alles and the rest is worthless" senseless drivel? And the subsequent flip-flop when BMW all of a sudden decides that a traditional setup makes more sense to them...

Yeah, just like that...

OH YEAH... and the potential buyers are sitting still, holding their collective breath... you are a funny man, Bubba...

It would help if you go to the big city every now and then and catch a glimpse of "real life"...

They need a lot more than the BMW crowd (whereas you are referring to a few people on a few message boards, linked to BMW) "talking the bikes up" in order to get the numbers they need to even start recovering the development cost and the cost for the racing circus...

I don't know how it is in your little town but the rest of America is hurting!

Ralf your on a Roll tonight:D::D:p