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Front Fender Removal

Yeah I know, elementary as heck, but after removing the four bolts holding the fender to the front fork, the fender still does not come off. It seems to still be attached from the underside of the fender or something? I sure don't want to break the darn thing.

I did manage to figure out how to remove the battery all by myself, so hopefully that means I'm not a complete fool.
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Remove the front wheel. There is a screw that threads up into the lower clamp.
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Remove the front wheel. There is a screw that threads up into the lower clamp.
Ah, as I suspected but I had intended removing the fender before removing the wheel for a tire change so I wouldn't accidentally damage the fender. Guess that won't work.

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Well, it does if you let the air out and C-Clamp the are of the tire... but that kinda makes it a bit complicated...
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Use a motorcycle jack stand. Lift both wheels off the ground at the same time.
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Use a motorcycle jack stand. Lift both wheels off the ground at the same time.
Ahem... how exactly does that expose the fifth screw on the front fender, Jerry?
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Lifting is not a problem, I have a Pit Bull front stand (fits the K too), and I can lift and stabilize the rear of the bike with a tall 2x4 sawhorse and ratcheting straps. The S has a centerstand, but I like the extra support and peace of mind of the saw horse, seen here when in use changing the final drive fluid of the K bike.

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Jerry, I can't tell from the photo... is the sawhorse crossmember nailed/screwed into the flange or just using gravity. Seems like it would have a very small footrpint for storage needs if it is not fastened.
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Jerry, I can't tell from the photo... is the sawhorse crossmember nailed/screwed into the flange or just using gravity. Seems like it would have a very small footrpint for storage needs if it is not fastened.
The crossbar looks like it's resting on pinch clamps. As the downward force increases, those metal hinges push harder into the crossbar.

I leave the 5th bolt out of the front fender, personally. Been good for 70K as long as the animals aren't around. Tire changes go a lot faster, though I usually just use the centerstand on my driveway, which has a change in slope between two slabs of concrete. A jack on the front of the engine to lift the front up gets the wheel out without getting too sketchy. On level ground, it's a little more unnerving.
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Ralf, his goal was to remove the tire.
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Jerry, I can't tell from the photo... is the sawhorse crossmember nailed/screwed into the flange or just using gravity. Seems like it would have a very small footrpint for storage needs if it is not fastened.
Sergio, I do drive a nail into the flange but then remove it so it folds up neatly for storage.
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The crossbar looks like it's resting on pinch clamps. As the downward force increases, those metal hinges push harder into the crossbar.
Yep, very stable. Cheap too.
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Jerry (or anyone else, I might as well open myself up to berating from the ENTIRE populace)-

Any thoughts on using something like that on the front end of the bike?

I have to remove the wheel, fairing, forks, etc. on my bike and leave them off for a week or two, and think your method looks a lot more stable than trusting my bike to sit on its center stand or a jack for that long. I don't think lifting via the jugs or exhaust would be all that wise, but the 1100S is rather stable on the center-stand, it's just a little too front-heavy to do work on the front end very easily, never mind not being able to clear the calipers with the discs without jacking the thing up...
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Ralf, his goal was to remove the tire.
Does not say that in the OP... I understood that the point was to take the fender off... but, you are right why would you do that?

Yet, you don't need to remove the fender to remove the wheel... the plot thickens...
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Jerry (or anyone else, I might as well open myself up to berating from the ENTIRE populace)-

Any thoughts on using something like that on the front end of the bike?
You'll HAVE to use the frame neck in order to do that on the front or it will be instabile... but it works just fine. I used to do that when I still had a garage with space in it... I used the neck or - in some cases - even the handle bars.
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...I used the neck or - in some cases - even the handle bars.
Wouldn't the jugs be much better than the bars?
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Wouldn't the jugs be much better than the bars?
No, you would raise the center of gravity way to high and sacrifice a ton of stability if you were to keep it flexible (i.e. using straps/tie downs)... if you want to use the jugs, all you need to do is lift the bike and put a couple of support jacks under them... that would work as well and it is very rigid... but, the R12's have a VERY exposed and VERY fragile coil under there... handle with care!
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You'll HAVE to use the frame neck in order to do that on the front or it will be instabile... but it works just fine. I used to do that when I still had a garage with space in it... I used the neck or - in some cases - even the handle bars.
Yes, this is where I have also attached to lift the front before I got the PitBull. I also use a jack to support from below, gradually lifting with the jack and tightening the straps from above until the weight is shared.
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just get a Harbor Freight (or similar) m/c lift. the small one is under $100, and works great- both wheels can come off at the same time, quite stable. About the only thing it doesn't work for is oil/filter changes.
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Not sure about your bike, but mine loves to teeter on it. Not the most stable I'd say. Plus, I don't really trust that hydralic jack nor the 'locking mechanism' for more than an hour or two.

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