Pelican Parts
Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   Pelican Parts Forums > BMW Forums > BMW Technical Forums > BMW R1100S / R1200S Tech Forum


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread
Author
Thread Post New Thread    Reply
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Scotland UK
Posts: 64
SJ Induct versus Lennies Induct

Hi All,

As the title says, can folks give me their opinions on which induct they think is best and possibly the reasons why.

__________________
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
Old 02-14-2010, 03:58 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #1 (permalink)
No try, do or not do
 
shreddr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,356
Garage
same difference, both good construction, both have the same benefit. you may have a hard time finding Lennies they might not be made anymore. check in with him, he is a member here
__________________
2017 R1200GSW Rallye Shreddr Signature Model
Old 02-14-2010, 04:30 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #2 (permalink)
Registered
 
EZ-RIDER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Bozeman Montana
Posts: 3,063
He is still making them, and they are carbon fiber !
__________________
Dyno'd 104Hp 74.3 ft lbs torque at the rear wheel
1150 cylinders 12:1 pistons/ race cams, Lennies induct, Laser Boxercup II Exhaust, Ohlins shocks, Dymag Carbon Fiber Five Spoke wheels, Crossover tube removed, heads ported and polished Bigger valves installed intake and exhaust! SJ power filter, motoyoyo clamps , HID
Old 02-14-2010, 04:55 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #3 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Scotland UK
Posts: 64
The SJ induct does look a bit bigger. I have had a Lennies before, but am just about to get the SJ powerfilter and wondered if the SJ induct would be a good purchase as it does come as a kit, or try and find a Lennies.
__________________
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
Old 02-14-2010, 05:21 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #4 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,178
You might also want to get the snorkel extension from SJBMW, like my modified one.
Old 02-14-2010, 05:27 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #5 (permalink)
Registered
 
daweise1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Pataskala, Ohio
Posts: 146
Cost Comparsion

I have been looking myself....

SJ supderduct with filter

San Jose BMW - Parts

Lennies Induct (E-mail is one month old)

Tim,

Price is $480.00 plus $55.00 for 3 day international shipping.

Prces are in Australian dollars and payment is via Paypal to
lenmor@activ.com.au.

Allow 2 weeks lead time for shipment as I build to order

Regards,

Lennie

I will also sit back and see where everyone falls....
Old 02-14-2010, 05:31 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #6 (permalink)
 
No try, do or not do
 
shreddr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,356
Garage
Quote:
Originally Posted by welshboxer View Post
The SJ induct does look a bit bigger. I have had a Lennies before, but am just about to get the SJ powerfilter and wondered if the SJ induct would be a good purchase as it does come as a kit, or try and find a Lennies.
it's your money, but that SJBMW kit looks like a smokin deal at $399 compared to the standalone Induct. That whole kit used to go for quite a bit more as separate parts.
__________________
2017 R1200GSW Rallye Shreddr Signature Model
Old 02-14-2010, 05:50 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #7 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Scotland UK
Posts: 64
The kit is a very good price, there again the front part looks hugs in phoenixtexoma's picture, is it me or does it look as if it touches the back of the forks.

I take it that over 500 Australian dollars for a Lennie's Induct.

Does anybody know which one gives the best performance?
__________________
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
Old 02-14-2010, 11:39 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #8 (permalink)
No try, do or not do
 
shreddr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,356
Garage
phoenix's part was handmade. i am guessing that the SJBMW unit with filter will perform better than the Induct alone. just a guess though, and i doubt you will find any hard data either way.
__________________
2017 R1200GSW Rallye Shreddr Signature Model
Old 02-14-2010, 11:58 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #9 (permalink)
Registered
 
EZ-RIDER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Bozeman Montana
Posts: 3,063
Lennie's Induct plus power filter would be the way to go if you have the $$$$
__________________
Dyno'd 104Hp 74.3 ft lbs torque at the rear wheel
1150 cylinders 12:1 pistons/ race cams, Lennies induct, Laser Boxercup II Exhaust, Ohlins shocks, Dymag Carbon Fiber Five Spoke wheels, Crossover tube removed, heads ported and polished Bigger valves installed intake and exhaust! SJ power filter, motoyoyo clamps , HID
Old 02-14-2010, 12:24 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #10 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,178
The snorkel DOES NOT touch the forks. I made it in the shape you see so there would be a direct flow of air into the snorkel. The standard SJBMW snorkel is blocked somewhat by the left fork.
Old 02-14-2010, 01:29 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #11 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Scotland UK
Posts: 64
Sorry missed the part saying it was a mod and not the standard SJBMW part.
__________________
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
Old 02-14-2010, 04:03 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #12 (permalink)
Registered
 
EZ-RIDER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Bozeman Montana
Posts: 3,063
Welshboxer where in Scotland are you located ?
__________________
Dyno'd 104Hp 74.3 ft lbs torque at the rear wheel
1150 cylinders 12:1 pistons/ race cams, Lennies induct, Laser Boxercup II Exhaust, Ohlins shocks, Dymag Carbon Fiber Five Spoke wheels, Crossover tube removed, heads ported and polished Bigger valves installed intake and exhaust! SJ power filter, motoyoyo clamps , HID
Old 02-14-2010, 04:25 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #13 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,178
Welshboxer: my father's side of the family is from Wales, the Swindale region. The snorkel extension is easy to make using 1/32" ABS plastic from McMaster Carr and a heat gun. Used an aluminum pie plate to make the template.
Old 02-15-2010, 03:37 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #14 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Birmingham England
Posts: 3,396
Reminds me of when the SJ version and Lennies surfaced there being some what of a bun fight between the opposing parties,if i remember was Lennies bigger??,the duct i mean
Old 02-15-2010, 04:01 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #15 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Scotland UK
Posts: 64
Chris,

Looking at the SJ induct on their site against the OEM one, the SJ induct looks a lot bigger, thinking back, I don't think the Lennies is any bigger than the SJ induct, unless in recent times they have enlarged it.

phoenixtexoma,

Never heard of Swindale in Wales, think it is near Staffordshire. Ask your family what town/village they are from.
__________________
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
Old 02-15-2010, 05:05 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #16 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,178
WB: E-mailed my (very distant) cousin in Christchurch who has supplied me with family geneaology, he replied that my great-great-grandfather Samuel moved from Wales to Swindale, which is near Staffordshire as you observed. The family ancestral home is in Wales in the same general area that the movie, "The Keep" was filmed. I can't remember offhand the name of the village, altho I do recall that I couldn't even begin to pronounce it. Samuel caught a ship to America from Birkenhead, landing in New Orleans in the late 1850s and settling in Texas.
Old 02-15-2010, 12:58 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #17 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Scotland UK
Posts: 64
Your family were from the Gwynedd area of North Wales, I am a South Walian, meaning I am from the Valleys of South Wales (coal mining and steel).

Now come on lads and lasses, has anybody got the low down on which induct performs the best.
__________________
"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines, sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
Old 02-15-2010, 01:12 PM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #18 (permalink)
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 1,178
WB: Knowing the caliber of work that Lennie does, I'd go with his kit and a power filter, plus his Rocket Sprockets for mid-range, FRK module, Brisk plugs, Russ Collins 370 computer-matched injectors, SJBMW snorkel and a good aftermarket exhaust or the stock one with the cat removed (depending on the emission regs in your part of the world). Lennie's costs a little more, partly because the SJBMW kit doesn't provide you with the very important tube extension. You have to use the stock rubber ribbed one. If Lennie is lurking out there, maybe he can add to the comments. The above mods will change your S into a mid-range beast at WOT and a very smooth highway runner at normal speeds -- as in very little vibration up to 5k rpms and beyond, assuming you have all else dialed in.
Old 02-16-2010, 03:44 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #19 (permalink)
Moderator
 
roger albert's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Austin, TX. USA
Posts: 11,605
At the time they came out, apples to apples / 1st-gen to 1st-gen, the flow area of Lennie's was a decent amount larger and it was a LOT lighter. (CF vs heavy plastic). I went with Lennie's duct and SJ's filter. Quite happy with it. Both are good products.

__________________
99 R11S w/ BBP, InDuct, Öhlins, PVMs, Braking, SJ-Filter, ZTech, HIDs
D675 R90Cafe R60/2 M900 SV650-SS CBR150R XR125 & CRF175 Motards


OnRoad OffRoad Cycles, Austin, TX: BMW, Ital, Suspension, Electrics
Dealer for K-Tech, JRI, GP Suspension, Penske, Öhlins, RaceTech, Elka, Wilbers, IKON & Works
www.ororcycle.com

CMRA EXPERT #841
Various Formula 5, 6 & 7 championships 2006-2012

A3, Navigator,
Old 02-16-2010, 04:28 AM
  Pelican Parts Catalog | Tech Articles | Promos & Specials    Reply With Quote #20 (permalink)
Reply


 


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:50 AM.


 
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page
 

DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.