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Vario Torque arm for R12S

here is a nice bit of bling, I like the adjuster for the length.








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Damn..........that one is nice.........I wish I knew they were going to replace the old style one with this as I would have waited.

Shreddr, can you do me a favour and don't post new stuff I already have. Or just buy 2 of everything and bill me for the second part.

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Shreddr, the indomitable King of Bling.
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Shreddr, the indomitable King of Bling.
all functional, maybe with the exception of the carbon fiber license plate frame!
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Great! i have another project i want to work on, i just need to draw it up on Solidworks and then make one for the r1100s.
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Now that is nice ,but as with everything Blunderlich they don't make anything,so who does make e'm!!.
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...I saw this torque arm on the INTERMOT on a GS ; and I must admit, it looks nice...

...BUT..., I don't like the blue adjuster (it should be red ), and you only can get the arm in silver, not in black...


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For $379 you'd think they'd take the tool marks out. I like the blue though. Would go well with my silver bike.
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the blue and silver IS going to look perfect on my bike, especially with my CF brake line protector!
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For $379 you'd think they'd take the tool marks out. I like the blue though. Would go well with my silver bike.
i always figured you paid extra for the tool marks, because it means "custom"
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Bob being a machinist, might pride himself on leaving no tool marks, but to those of us with little to no machining skills, it does indeed say custom. Me, I'm just happy when the sharp edges are taken off and I don't cut myself during install/use. (something I've botched several times on the lathe this year, and REALLY botched while milling down some aluminum vise jaws. OUCH.
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...well, IMO the ABD and the Rizoma torque arm give a lot more value for money...
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......BUT..., I don't like the blue adjuster (it should be red ), and you only can get the arm in silver, not in black...
Is that a problem ? There are so many small companies that do anodyzing.
I'd anodyze the arm in black, then de-anodyzing the inlet (adjuster) and after that anodyzing it in gold.
In my eyes the best fit for the black transmission drive

Maybe another work for me in winter. Guess I do one by myself. Or ring up the faboulous Mr. Schmitz of BKG www.bkg-bike-parts.de and ask him how many time and how many bucks.

Tool marks.......... well I guess they don't take them out because many people like that........


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...well, IMO the ABD and the Rizoma torque arm give a lot more value for money...
how do you come to that? they are all machined from billet, and the Rizoma and ABD have two settings, stock or +5mm. the Vario unit is billet and has +/- 7mm. the only other unit that gives you that kind of adjustability is the SJBMW unit but it looks like sheeite if you ask me.
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Angle?

It makes me think of that is acceptable angle for the drive train and shaft so not to result is excessive wear? As one jacks up the back the wheel base may shorten but at what price to the drive shaft joints and tranny? Bobl.
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It makes me think of that is acceptable angle for the drive train and shaft so not to result is excessive wear? As one jacks up the back the wheel base may shorten but at what price to the drive shaft joints and tranny? Bobl.
It probably comes down to an opinion of what is acceptable wear. The R1100S and GS varients were 25mm different and quite a few on this site have swapped to the shorter GS version. The increase in agility made all the difference for me.

When I modified a stock one for my track bike, it was 30mm under stock length. In my case it not only gave faster steering but a greater lean angle.
After three seasons of track use, no observed problems with U-joint wear. (although the guy I sold it to may get a nasty surprise).

Shreddr - in your opinion is the +/- 7mm span a design limit set by the length of the rear brake line? Would +10 or +15mm be too aggressive?
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It makes me think of that is acceptable angle for the drive train and shaft so not to result is excessive wear? As one jacks up the back the wheel base may shorten but at what price to the drive shaft joints and tranny? Bobl.
Having been that route with an 1100s,it's not guess work,the tranny will tell you,you can feel it through the pegs.
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the Vario unit is billet and has +/- 7mm. the only other unit that gives you that kind of adjustability is the SJBMW unit but it looks like sheeite if you ask me.
...there is a third option ; the adjustable Nico Bakker arm...
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(pic of the non-adjustable one)

Had one on the BCR ; and they are beautiful made !



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It probably comes down to an opinion of what is acceptable wear. The R1100S and GS varients were 25mm different
No the difference was 20mm (365mm / 385mm). The R1100S BoxerCup versions as well a the R1100S versions with the "new" sport package had this 20mm shorter 365mm torque arm as stock equipment.

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When I modified a stock one for my track bike, it was 30mm under stock length.
That's right. 355mm was the limit. The adjustable mv verholen torque arm had a span from 355 up to 388mm length (self measured). 355mm was the best choice for slower tracks with tight curves. Most used length was somewaht between 360-370mm, depending on track and on other adjustments (length of shocks e.g.)

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Shreddr - in your opinion is the +/- 7mm span a design limit set by the length of the rear brake line? Would +10 or +15mm be too aggressive?
IMHO: shreddr was right. So was the guy who constructed this arm with the 7mm span. I guess that this was the most possible reason, why all the other products had only +/- 5mm.

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...there is a third option ; the adjustable Nico Bakker arm...
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Had one on the BCR ; and they are beautiful made !



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I actually bought a Bakker unit here on the forum from a member who never installed it. when I got it I realized it was for a K1200S which had a different fitment. it was very pretty though! i like the concentric adjusters on the Vario unit, they will look nice with my new concentric footpegs! (thanks Ron!)
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