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Well CK, it looks like it is up to you to carry the new bike banner.
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1. Too much electronics. Traction controls, ignition map controls, zillions of sensors everywhere, soon you will have to shove something up your a$$ to start your bike.

2. The looks...computer aid design is great for mechanical stuff not so much for sheer designing beauty. Lines everywhere, lack of continuity, just butt-ugly bikes. They should revisit clay molding.

3. The race for hp...which means no more v2s because you can't spin two big jugs to 18k...KTM has dropped the RC8, Honda and Suzuki will never build a sport twin again, Kawasaki and Yamaha got never into the game. I hate 4 cylinder bikes, always did, always will.

3. EPA...I hope they burn in hell! Another reason V2s are doomed.

4. I miss carburetors a lot and two strokers!
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As far as looks, I see that as generational. The young millenials seem to go for the "Transformer" look with angular designs, where I prefer more traditional. Camaro versus a WRX, for example...


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Well CK, it looks like it is up to you to carry the new bike banner
Will see. But it won't be any big, exciting thing....
My problem is that most bikes are just too tall...

I guess I lean toward new... Unless the used bike is a deal and looks like it was well maintained, I'm not that interested. I'm picky about certain things, and the mechanical abilities of many who tout themselves as mechanics...

Plus, these days you can get almost zero % financing, where over the years it's been up to 16%

I'm sure there's more I can't remember. Some bikes just come and go....

My new purchases:
1983 Honda XL600r
1998 Harley-Davidson Sportster Sport
1999 BMW 650 Funduro
2000 BMW R1100S
2000 Harley-Davidson FXDX
2007 BMW R1200S
2008 Buell 1125r
2010 BMW F800GS
2015 BMW F800GS
2015 BMW R nineT

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Honda 250 Elsinore
Honda 350 Something dual-sport (Crested Butte)
Honda 350 Something dual sport (a different one Loveland)
20xx Ducati Monster
2000 BMW R1100S (Buyback after six years)
2001 BMW F650GS
2003 BMW F650 Dakar
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Time Marches On: 2010 F800GS, 2007 R1200S, 2003 Dakar, Buell 1125r, 2001 F650GS. 1999 F650. 1998 HD Sportster Sport. ALL GONE
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Is Steve Farson still on here? I would like to see a list of his purchases over the years.

I still have my 2001 R1100S. It is easy to maintain, reliable and comfortable on long rides. Performance is lacking compared to bikes friends are riding. Bit of a Grandpa's bike really, but at nearly 66 I am well qualified to ride it. A GS1200 LC would be in the garage if I felt more comfortable with the height. Dirt bikes, particularly trials bikes have been my greatest interest over the years and currently have a 2014 Factory 280 TXT Gas Gas.
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The problem with buying modern day secondhand is getting one at the spec you want,the new BM XR comes in as many specs as days in the year hence why I ordered new in the spec that I wanted.

Bought my 1100s in 2000 secondhand with 1600 miles on the clock,the Tiger was new the XT came with 560 miles on it and the K also had 1600 on it still have them and they are all used with aftermarket wheels/suspension/fuelling.

When I bought the XR expected a bike a couple more rungs up the ladder I got 10!! Less weight fly by wire and a quick shifter just another league that's not to say the others do not have their uses but just come from another era.
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I purchased a new silver R nineT last year. Great bike! Planning to build a custom cafe racer out of it. Much like the new "racer" model but with better suspension and a R90S black "smoke" and silver color scheme.

I also have a new 1299 S Panigale in the garage. Setting it up as a track day weapon.
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Have only bought 2 bikes and 2 cars as new.

This was last year's throwdown.

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BLTZN1, Is the VFR THE ONE?
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Well, nothing lately, and about half have been new. However, I lost interest in "recent" BMWs when electronic anti-theft devices started stranding folks. That's when I moved to a simpler Moto Guzzi.

1969 Hodaka 100B - Spokane (new)
1970 Yamaha DT 250 - Seattle (used)
1971 DKW 125 - Seattle (new)
1976 Kawasaki KX125 - Denver (new)
1982 Yamaha IT400 - Seattle (used)
1983 Moto Guzzi Lemans III - Oak Park (used)
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2000 BMW R1100S - Valley Cycle (new)
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A few of the things I like I learned I wanted them only after I had them on a new bike. Cruise control comes to mind. Right now I'd love to have an Africa Twin, but no cruise. And engine tuning out of the box is way better than years ago. Once upon a time it was SOP to rejet or remap or remuffler or whatever. But my last several BMWs (F800GS, R1200GS, S1000XR) don't need anything although the KTMs did. They start and go and don't stumble and rumble around looking for the right mix. Start at sea level....all good. Go to altitude and the bikes are happy there too.
So for me owning and playing with the new technology is part of the fun. Oh....and the quick shifter of the R1200GSW is OK but the same on the S1000XR is splendid. 1 to 6 and back down shifts are slick and seamless. I don't bother with the clutch until the stop.
I like new bikes.
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I have had over 85 bikes, lost count, about half 'n half new / used riding over 50 years the 2015 VFR is in the garage and I have not ridden it yet, still recovering from a broken femur from the November accident my '99 is getting old and has 140,000 kms and has been costing some money over the last few years so, was ready for something modern and reliable my son rides a VFR and he kinda talked me into getting this one my gut feeling is that it is going to work very well but feel like vanilla I still really like the R1100S and I think it is THE ONE, the VFR is going to be more of a tool and the R1100S is going to be more of a passion
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KMoore, Here is one of Steve Farsons new bikes appropriate for this site and still going strong in Northern Colorado. The picture is a couple of years old but it hasnt changed. I added bags when I bought it and just put on miles. Its been a great bike.

Hey Bikerfish I just bought a new Tenkara will that help me ?

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I just bought my 1st new bike (2016 Indian Chieftain) last February. Now i can choose riding styles for different trips.
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Nothing wrong with that. A stable isn't complete without three or four bikes for differing purposes.

Ex member Steve Farson (mentioned above), along with many others here, owned Harley-Davidson, BMW, Ducati, KTM, among other manufacturers.

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I just bought my 1st new bike (2016 Indian Chieftain) last February. Now i can choose riding styles for different trips.
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Nothing wrong with that. A stable isn't complete without three or four bikes for differing purposes.
Mine is more like a stable of similar purposes from different manufacturers. I'm attracted to sport bikes. Seems that every time time I get an upright, it ends up being sold within a year. I'm going to take another stab at an upright with a Tuono. Used, of course.
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Tuono's are upright like a dirt bike, Mille's are pure sport bike, might reconsider.
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Tuono's are upright like a dirt bike, Mille's are pure sport bike, might reconsider.
That was my point. I thought about Mille R but with a BCR and 2 Bimotas it would be a bit redundant although the Mille is an outstanding value. Tuono basically is a Mille sans fairings and clip ons. Many positive reviews.
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After riding sport bikes for so long I felt way up in the air riding my friends '07 Tuono. I was surprised how effective that little fairing was at 80+ on the highway. Hard to fault either, that motor is just great fun. torque & power end to end of the rev range with a boost at 6k that kicks in hard.
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The only new vehicle of any kind I ever bought was my '84 R100S. Had three used /2s and one /6 before that and two used R1100Ss after. Only have the '04 S now and it is likely my last bike, so I'll see how much fun and utility I can squeeze out of it before someone else gets a good used bike.
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I purchased the XR a year and a half ago and is the only new bike I have ever purchased...it is spectacular....
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