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Changing oil with no torque wrenches

Anyone do this? In all these years changing oil in my cars and bikes I never used a torque wrench.
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Count me as guilty, though I do have a nifty tool that makes it easy on the 1100s.
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Cool. And what is the "nifty" tool that you use?
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Got one of these, also need a conversion chart for different angles.

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the filter is a no brainer and the oil plug with a new washer you can feel it stop tightening
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I have never used a torque wrench for an oil change for any vehicle.

Not something I recommend for people to do but I've wrenched so much I have a feel for it. I typically use the torque wrench for unfamiliar or fussy parts that require it.

If you feel confident and haven't been destroying washers, losing plugs or stripping threads this whole time then I don't see a problem with it.
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Reminds me of when a person starts a weight training program and they can barely bench 75 lbs, partly because they are so unsure and their muscles are untrained. Then four months later they can bench 210 pounds and still climbing... But.. the 210 lbs feels the same to them as the 75 pounds did... And about the same effort... So the feel hasn't changed, and it can be anywhere on the continuum. Or sick, hungover, whatever. Everything changes your feel and accurate guesstimate. And yet, there is great finesse and accuracy in the hands, like a surgeon. Or perhaps a conga player.

Vehicles have torque specs for just about every nut and bolt anymore. Guess I would only ask you if you are prepared for a fix if you strip it.
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I have a 3/8 inch drive Craftsman, and I use is on every drain plug. I don't use it on oil filters, but brake rotors, spark plugs, wheel lugs, anything I can use it on I do.

Back in 1980 I was changing the oil on a 1977 Honda CB750F, steel plug threaded into an aluminum oil pan,I over tightened it and cracked the oil pan. Similar to a K bike it's removable, but was a week without the bike waiting on parts. I learned my lesson.
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I advocate the use of torque wrenches on anything that has a spec.
I figure you can use the torque wrench or keep a stash of helicoils or timeserts for the damage that will occur down the line, especially working with aluminum.

The torque wrench is cheaper and faster.
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Reminds me of when a person starts a weight training program and they can barely bench 75 lbs, partly because they are so unsure and their muscles are untrained. Then four months later they can bench 210 pounds and still climbing... But.. the 210 lbs feels the same to them as the 75 pounds did... And about the same effort... So the feel hasn't changed, and it can be anywhere on the continuum. Or sick, hungover, whatever. Everything changes your feel and accurate guesstimate. And yet, there is great finesse and accuracy in the hands, like a surgeon. Or perhaps a conga player.

Vehicles have torque specs for just about every nut and bolt anymore. Guess I would only ask you if you are prepared for a fix if you strip it.
I have NEVER used a torque wrench for an oil change...

worked out, got stronger, got weaker again... was injured, tired, pissed and everything in between... the plug always feels the same. Being stronger just makes it easier to get there.
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I pick my bike up, and hold it upside down. oil pours out of the filler cap nicely. combines the work out and the oil change to save on Gym time.
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Put me in the never used one on an oil change section but don't do the same putting the rear wheel on an 1100 you really do need one then
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I pick my bike up, and hold it upside down. oil pours out of the filler cap nicely. combines the work out and the oil change to save on Gym time.
Pics or it didn't happen!!!


I too stopped using a torque wrench. Most of the service fasteners will seat, then tighten very close to the book torque spec. It's unique fasteners like the rear link that really need to be torqued correctly (vehicle weighted) etc., and to specs that aren't as common as other service fasteners.
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