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BikerMiker 10-19-2017 01:20 PM

Engine Guards / Cylinder Protectors R1200S
 
We've had some recent heavy rain which has caused a lot of washout on the roads here. There's a road near where I live that I'm very familiar with and know where all the bad spots are after a a good rain.

Well... Today I found a new spot that was completely camouflaged with the road and in a slow, tight corner and where there's never been any debris before. The bike slid for about 20' on the on the valve cover guard and my riding pants got a little damage but that's it.

So I currently have the BMW 71 60 7 684 308 standard plastic valve cover guards on my R1200S, which work well but now that I am looking to replace one.

I'm wondering what others are using and what experiences, if any, folks have had with any aftermarket guards good or bad.

Mitch1100 10-19-2017 06:48 PM

Wow, if you cylinder head covers weren't damaged..same again.

Square Kopf 10-19-2017 07:04 PM

Touratech or MAM
 
1. Touratech silver/black - if you can find them used or wait until they become available: https://touratech-usa.com/Store/Cylinder-Head-Guards-Silver-R1200GS-RT-HP2-up-to-2009

2. MachineArtMoto - readily available, cheaper than Touratech and very durable: https://machineartmoto.com/products/x-head/x-head-v-3/

SmileWavy

BikerMiker 10-20-2017 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Square Kopf (Post 9783389)
1. Touratech silver/black - if you can find them used or wait until they become available: https://touratech-usa.com/Store/Cylinder-Head-Guards-Silver-R1200GS-RT-HP2-up-to-2009

2. MachineArtMoto - readily available, cheaper than Touratech and very durable: https://machineartmoto.com/products/x-head/x-head-v-3/

SmileWavy

I like those X-Heads.

tic105 10-20-2017 01:56 PM

Wunderlich also has a nice looking set in aluminum at their usual premium price. Friend has the ones for the R1100S on his bike and they are very well made.

2wheelmike 10-23-2017 03:31 PM

Have you checked stock prices? The magnesium stockers weren't that expensive (i.e. not worth buying the guards that cost more than the parts they're intended to protect). I noticed mine are oxidizing so I'm getting ready to powdercoat the stockers black.

BikerMiker 10-23-2017 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 2wheelmike (Post 9788128)
Have you checked stock prices? The magnesium stockers weren't that expensive (i.e. not worth buying the guards that cost more than the parts they're intended to protect). I noticed mine are oxidizing so I'm getting ready to powdercoat the stockers black.

Being able to ride back home was worth it though. I even continued on with my ride.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1508815045.jpg

2wheelmike 10-24-2017 07:57 AM

Good point. I've also seen JB weld and aluminum can repairs which worked well enough.

Rapid Dog 10-24-2017 01:54 PM

I had some Wunder-or-other aluminium guards on my R and had a slide.
Worthless.
I'm a big fan of the Machineartmoto guards, so...+1.

Lowndes 10-25-2017 05:59 PM

Found some on fleabay a while back for the R11S, very similar to these at about this price:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Motorcycle-Engine-Protector-Guard-Fit-BMW-R1200S-2006-2007-R900RT-2005-2009/222525047780?hash=item33cf86c3e4:g:30YAAOSwi7RZKET f&vxp=mtr

They seem to be hard plastic molded over a chromed steel frame and are not obtrusive. There looks to be about a uniform 1/8" air gap between them and the heads. No slides so far, thank you, but a couple of garage/parking lot tip-overs and they did their job perfectly. I'd think they could handle much more but would rather not be the one to report on that.

BikerMiker 07-28-2018 06:28 PM

So I got a set of Machinearts and thought that the plastic they were made of seemed... off.
They are hard and feel similar to that type of hard plastic ABS or old Bakelite. I don't
know a term for that type of plastic but I went with it.

Today I was klutz backing my bike out of the garage. I lost my balance and
dropped it. You know, trying to hold it up awkwardly saying, "NO NO NO NO!!" *KLUNK*.
It was a slow drop but it came to rest on one engine cover. The cover literally cracked
and shattered. I mean shattered in that there were a few decent sized pieces that were
completely sheared off.

They really are brittle and just have no give to absorb an impact. If they break this bad
in a minor drop I doubt their effectiveness. I don't recommend them.

I'm going back to the OEM style.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1532826655.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1532826655.jpg

Mark R 1200 S 07-29-2018 09:54 PM

Not that it would necessarily make a difference, but I use different mounting hardware on my MotoMachine guards.

Referencing above depiction, for the forward mount I use a more robust (head) chrome bolt and larger 15 mm washer (same as at the rear). I also make sure as best as possible not to load up tension on the guard at any particular mount.

Glad to see your VC was not marred in the tip-over, Mike.

Rapid Dog 07-30-2018 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BikerMiker (Post 10123774)
So I got a set of Machinearts and thought that the plastic they were made of seemed... off.
They are hard and feel similar to that type of hard plastic ABS or old Bakelite. I don't
know a term for that type of plastic but I went with it.

Today I was klutz backing my bike out of the garage. I lost my balance and
dropped it. You know, trying to hold it up awkwardly saying, "NO NO NO NO!!" *KLUNK*.
It was a slow drop but it came to rest on one engine cover. The cover literally cracked
and shattered. I mean shattered in that there were a few decent sized pieces that were
completely sheared off.

They really are brittle and just have no give to absorb an impact. If they break this bad
in a minor drop I doubt their effectiveness. I don't recommend them.

I'm going back to the OEM style.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1532826655.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1532826655.jpg

Never seen that before. You should contact MAM and show them.
They might replace it.

buzzerbee 07-30-2018 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BikerMiker (Post 10123774)
So I got a set of Machinearts and thought that the plastic they were made of seemed... off.
They are hard and feel similar to that type of hard plastic ABS or old Bakelite. I don't
know a term for that type of plastic but I went with it.

Today I was klutz backing my bike out of the garage. I lost my balance and
dropped it. You know, trying to hold it up awkwardly saying, "NO NO NO NO!!" *KLUNK*.
It was a slow drop but it came to rest on one engine cover. The cover literally cracked
and shattered. I mean shattered in that there were a few decent sized pieces that were
completely sheared off.

They really are brittle and just have no give to absorb an impact. If they break this bad
in a minor drop I doubt their effectiveness. I don't recommend them.

I'm going back to the OEM style.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1532826655.jpg

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1532826655.jpg

Here's my three cents. A slide will likely cause less damage to the valve covers than a straight fall over of the motorcycle. When the motorcycle falls over the protector recieves an impact all at once and is more likley to fracture or break. In a slide the impact is not as great and the damage is different to the protector. Your photos show this. But keep in mind you have the protectors to do just that, protect the valve covers and associated engine components. So, I think about any valve cover protector is just fine. I dropped a bike once and the protector broke but what it was protecting was fine; in a slide it'll get severly abraded but still will do what it was designed for.

kpolito99 08-14-2018 01:55 PM

Hey Mike,

I have a set of the factory cylinder guards which I will gladly ship to you at no charge. Currently I have a set of carbon fiber guards installed which have a thick shock absorbing puck to spread the load to a larger surface area of the cover should the bike land on the cylinder.

I am trying to recall where I purchased them. If you shoot me a current email I will send pics of the set I have installed on my black and blue R1216$.

kpolito99 08-15-2018 09:14 AM

These seem more expensive than the ones I bought but these are similar to the cylinder guards my R12S is wearing.

https://www.ebay.com/i/323384313420?chn=ps

BikerMiker 08-15-2018 10:19 AM

Thanks Kurt. How's it going? I should have waited but I already had bought a set.
I fixed your post below as well.......

Quote:

Originally Posted by kpolito99 (Post 10143813)
These seem more explosive than the ones I bought but these are similar to the cylinder guards my R12S is wearing.

https://www.ebay.com/i/323384313420?chn=ps

If any of you are scratching your heads, do a search for carbon fiber and/or BST wheels


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