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R1200S To Those Who Have Replaced Headers

So, as many of you may know, having children takes up a lot of your time. I am looking for some advice / warnings before I dig into this as to get this done as quickly as possible.

I received a set of Staintune headers and plan on putting them on my 12S before spring. I have not done exhaust on anything younger than an airhead.

Any gaskets needed or things I will need to finish the job that are not that obvious?
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I purchased and installed the Remus header and Akrapovic slip on. It was pretty easy. I did buy new exhaust gaskets, but I think I could have gotten away with just re-using the old one (only 15k on the bike at that time)
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Buy a spring hook, makes pulling back the springs at muffler a lot easier.

After you successfully install exhaust, clean header with a solvent spray. Wipe clean, then wipe again with alcohol and allow to air dry. Then fire up bike. (reduces chances of any possible staining)

After a days ride and after cool-off, retorque header nuts.
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Buy a spring hook,...

A spring hook? Like any doohickey to hold the spring in place?
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I am laughing my ass off right now.

Last year when we moved into this house I found one of these in a closet.
I didn't know what was but I felt that I may need it for something in the house someday....

Wow. Thanks! Got it!
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I would get new springs too if the new headers don't come with them. Otherwise you might get exhaust rattle noises.
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I am laughing my ass off right now.

Last year when we moved into this house I found one of these in a closet.
I didn't know what was but I felt that I may need it for something in the house someday....

Wow. Thanks! Got it!
Did the previous owner have a child named Sybil by any chance?
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The springs on these things heat up and break all the time. Get a bunch.
And get the new gaskets for the head to header seal. If there's a leak it'll likely suck in a bit of air, bias the O2 sensors and give you more noise on decel.
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The springs on these things heat up and break all the time. Get a bunch.
And get the new gaskets for the head to header seal. If there's a leak it'll likely suck in a bit of air, bias the O2 sensors and give you more noise on decel.
Got the gaskets..... Where is a good source for the springs? Are there different kinds or brands?
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It will depend on the length you need. For the Akrapovic exhaust, the springs I needed are very short and difficult to find. Staintune may have longer springs which are more readily available. Here is one source I found with a quick search:
https://www.ridersupplywarehouse.com/yoshimura-exhaust-spring-detail.htm?productId=25591100&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI-47-yPKZ2QIVQRuBCh1eswE1EAQYAiABEgKEmfD_BwE

Prices are all over the map too. Akra springs with the fancy rubber covers are $6+/ea at some sites. The rubber covers supposedly keep the rattles to a minimum. Get the swivel kind if you can to because the hole on the header flange may or may not line up well with the loop on the header.
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I got the last bunch of Laser springs from Robert Foster, fosterperformance@gmail.com . Got the entire R1200S Laser exhaust mounting package with everything, including the the silicone sleeves for the springs. He used to handle all of the Laser products at one time but not sure if he still has that connection to Laser. But a quick email will tell. Can't find his website any longer. Otherwise, Mike's suggestions should turn up something.
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So, as many of you may know, having children takes up a lot of your time. I am looking for some advice / warnings before I dig into this as to get this done as quickly as possible.

I received a set of Staintune headers and plan on putting them on my 12S before spring. I have not done exhaust on anything younger than an airhead.

Any gaskets needed or things I will need to finish the job that are not that obvious?
I replaced my headers with titanium Remus headers last year. This was the first wrenching I had done on my "new to me R1200s". It was a 2 out of 10 in terms of difficulty. I installed and connected to my OEM factory exhaust.

I didn't have a spring hook, but found a ViceGrips tool to be useful to install and remove the springs. I did not replace any gaskets and it all seems to fit very well and very tightly.

I think I posted about my experience on this forum if you search.

As with most projects, wait until the very end to tighten everything down. You'll want to check the clearance and alignment of everything, particularly from the right and left side, and particularly underneath around the y in the system, before you cinch things down. It's very easy to have the clearance underneath the bike be uneven one side to the other near the oil sump, and then you have to loosen everything up to make the small adjustments to get it right.

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Here's the link to my project report from last year:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/bmw-r1100s-r1200s-tech-forum/963133-anything-i-need-know-about-weekend-project.html
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Just ordered the AF-Xied now too. I have high expectations of this piece due to all the praise people have been giving it. Between that and the cat delete I'm hoping to see a little improvement.
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Uh....

Uh... Something's not quite right here... Anyone run into this before? These too pipe ends look suspiciously close to the same size and I don't see any way to attach the springs.

This is Staintune to stock muffler.



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So there were no places for the springs but I think I was able to snug tight enough against the tailpipe. I guess that's just how these are... I don't know.

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Looks like a muffler clamp is in order! Certain BMW makes a nice stainless one, then there’s always Auto Zone...
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Why don't you just take it to a welder and have a loop of welding rod tacked on for the spring. It'll look and work better than a clamp. There's a reason for the springs, two actually - heat and vibration.
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F. I can’t figure out why they wouldn’t put spring loops on there to begin with.
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