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seat belt warning gong/bell/noise!

Ok, one more question for the experts today. I did do a search for info on this in this forum and surprisingly I didn't find anything that pertains.

2008 Boxster S.

As soon as you unfasten your seat belt, the General Quarters bell sounds! When I stop at my driveway and walk 50' to the mailbox, it continues to sound, driving the wife insane and making the neighborhood dogs bark! I get back in the car and drive the 50 yards to the garage and I'm still under seige by the warning bell!

Is there ANY way to kill the seat belt warning sound in this car? (even my 2 Toyotas can be programed to silence the bells.... )

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You guys can't tell me there's at least one of you out there that has figured out a way to silence the set belt warning bell....
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It's the same problem on the Caymans - and it drives everyone mad....

Unfortunately, no easy solution that I have seen...

Someone posted that plugging in the buckle and removing quickly - several times will disable the chime - but it was also reported that it couldn't be reversed. It seemed to work for some but not all.... proceed at your own risk...

edit: also saw posts that some dealers can silence the chime - but not all dealers are willing to do this...

I'm sure others may have a more definitive solution....
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As the chime is a federally mandated safety related alarm, no dealer or indy in his or her right mind would shut it off; the liability risks are just to big...............

Can it be done, yes. Finding someone to do it becomes the issue. And I won't post how to do it for the same reasons.........
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I'll eventually figure it out - it will just take a little time. I don't mind the visual warning, but I don't need to hear a general quarters bell every time I take off the belt. 20 years on aircraft carriers was enough for me....
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I would just find. If it were me? The freaking buzzer, bell ringer/what ever and disconnect it, from the wire's it's connected to. Or shove a screw driver through it and kill the damn thing. I'm not sure if that would throw a fault code though. If it does? Well it was a shot. I just think things are over thought on these cars. It's a car like many others. But that's just me. Some things are not that important, When you go to resell it. (If you do.) NO one is going to say. Why isn't the seat belt warning ringing? If that is there biggest problem when you go to sell it. They are going to be a bigger pain in the ass than you need to deal with. But that's just the way I look at things.
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You and I think alike, Randy. I do like to do things in a way that can always be reversed though. It's so nice in my Toyota Tacoma and the wife's FJ Cruiser... there's a programming sequence you do with the key and the seatbelt, and you can turn off the chime altogether.

When I do figure it out, I don't have a problem posting the solution here...

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Super 90, Good luck. Let us know what you find. I'm sure you will figure something out. Either a screw driver or another solution. LOL

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I would just find. If it were me? The freaking buzzer, bell ringer/what ever and disconnect it, from the wire's it's connected to. Or shove a screw driver through it and kill the damn thing. I'm not sure if that would throw a fault code though. If it does? Well it was a shot. I just think things are over thought on these cars. It's a car like many others. But that's just me. Some things are not that important, When you go to resell it. (If you do.) NO one is going to say. Why isn't the seat belt warning ringing? If that is there biggest problem when you go to sell it. They are going to be a bigger pain in the ass than you need to deal with. But that's just the way I look at things.
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Thought of that - apparently the buzzer is buried deep inside the bowels of the instrument cluster....
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I've got a question about this out to a good friend that owns a local shop. He's a 911 owner also, and has worked on Porsches for 30 years. He's looking into it and he may have an idea or two that he's not afraid to voice. Hopefully I'll have more on this soon....
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Thought of that - apparently the buzzer is buried deep inside the bowels of the instrument cluster....
I looked through the Bentley manual and don't see it in there as to location. But if it is behind the instrument cluster. Depending on how bad you want it gone. Taking it out is not that big of deal. Took mine out to get the cluster pad on the top off to fix a crack in it. Took about a half hour or so to get it out.

There's an article in Wayne's book on how to remove it and if you find my "Diary of a high mileage 1999 Boxster" thread on here. It's on the first page of that with a couple of tips.
Although I didn't notice back there. But I wasn't looking for it.
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I would bet that if you had access to a Porsche System (PWSI?) you would be able change the functionality of your seat belt chime. I doubt you will get any shop or dealer to loan you one to do that though.

On my 99 the buzzer is located in the guage cluster. I'm not certain on a 987 if it is in the same location. You may try rolling up a towel and placing it behind the instrument hood to see if the sound is muffled. If it is in the cluster I'd suggest putting dynomat or something over the speaker because if you break it the clusters are only replaced as a unit and tend to be expensive, plus if you want to keep accurate mileage you will have to go to the dealer for them to program it.
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The sound is clearly from the behind the cluster. I'm going be wild and crazy... I am going to be at the dealer next week and I'm going to ask them if they can re-program the thing. I'll never really know unless I ask them! Might as well try that first before I take matters into my own hands.

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Why do you have to drive to your mailbox? I guess you could just buckle the seatbelt to stop the chime, no?
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Why do you have to drive to your mailbox? I guess you could just buckle the seat belt to stop the chime, no?
Racer, He probably has a neighborhood mail box you have to take a key to to get your mail.

As far as buckling the seat belt to stop it. Crap, People have to modify there top up and down buttons, So the can do that on the move??? I don't find that a necessity. It's just a thing he finds annoying and I can't say I much blame him.

Turned my key on and yes. The noise is from behind the instrument cluster. Now that you started this thread. It's annoying. Crap!!!

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Ok guys

You are all missing the point.
No need to stab or blow up the buzzer. The trick is to make the car believe the seatbelt is in the buckle. If you look at the buckle closely, you will see electric wire coming out of it ( I assume there are two in a black PVC sleeve) once the belt is in the buckle, it closes a circuit betwin the two wires. So what you need to do is find the wires in accessible place, check the resistance between the two wires when the belt is in the buckle, and when it is not.
It can be 3 options:
1. When the seat belt is in the buckle there is no resistance.
- In this case just disconnect one of the wires, so the circuit will stay open at all time.
2. When the seat belt is in the buckle the resistance is 0 (full shortcut).
- in this case make a connection between the two wires so the sircuit will be close at all time.
3. When the seat belt is in the buckle the resistance between the two wires is X, and when it is out the resistance is Y.
-In this case install a resistor between the wires to reflect the difference between the two values.

If there is only one wire coming out of the buckle, perform the same tests whan one of the probes is connected to ground.
I preformed this procedure many times in the past on many types of vehicles.
Never on a Porsche, so I will look at the Bentley book and see if I can locate the wire(s).
I have plans on installing cat bypass and rebuilding the axels this weekend, so if I have time left I will do that mod too and take some pics.
I personally don't care about the buzzer, I just don't want anyone going Jacky Chan on his cluster

(please excuse me for any spelling or grammar errors English is not my best language)

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Good thinking... I look forward to hearing what you find...
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update

986 - brown/red wire, pin 24 on cluster white connector.


986 2001 - brown/red wire, pin 21 on cluster blue connector.

my car is 01. i will put it to the test on Saturday or Sunday.

doing the job behind the cluster it is not a bad idea. it will enable thous who would like, to mount a switch in the dash to rotate between "normal mode" to override.

not sure about the 987, but my guess is,the wires will be in the same color.

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There must be a factory setting... On my '06, it chimes seven times... and then stops chiming. The light on the dash stays on, but it stops chiming.
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I was at the dealer today and asked the service writer if the warning chime was programmable or able to be turned off. He said, "no"... he didn't know of a way to do it and said that even if the dealer did know of a way, they probably would not alter it.

His workaround solution was to go get an old seat belt and use the male end of it as a dummy to plug into the female end if you don't want to wear the seatbelt.

The only time I don't wear the belt is when I'm stopping to pick up mail and driving down my driveway... personally, I won't bother with something like that to drive 50 yards. I'm going to figure out a way to kill the bell myself.
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