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Cayman S 2006 IMS fix??

2006 Cayman S - IMS fix?
Soooo tempted to grab this car.... am getting snagged on the IMS Issue. Anyone know a reasonably ($) good permanent fix for 2006's IMS?? Is bearing concern an overhyped and non-real source of worry??

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Old 12-22-2017, 01:01 PM
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The 2006-2008 IMS bearings still fail, just not in as large numbers as the single row.

LN Engineering makes a retrofit kit for the 06-08 engines which will allow you to use either their ceramic hybrid or the bullet proof IMS Solution. Unfortunately, you need to take the engine out and apart to do this update.
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I was doing the same looking around last year and ended up with a 2007 Cayman S, 54K miles $21K. Had service records. $22K is an OK price, but not a steal. If the IMS stuff keeps you awake at night, go for the 2009 or newer. I'd bet if you take the $22K for this car and add $2K for IMS fix you can get the 2009+ model. By the way, I ended up putting a clutch in after driving it after 6K miles. So be aware, 50K miles is getting into new clutch territory even if it seems good now.
Seems like most agree these need to be driven and they need regular oil changes.
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Isn't it possible on a '06 third gen IMS

to remove the seal from the bearing to improve oiling. Is't that what Hartack in the UK does? Takes trans removal.
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to remove the seal from the bearing to improve oiling. Is't that what Hartack in the UK does? Takes trans removal.
Yes Mike, you are correct. If you are not going to retrofit the 06-08 engine, pulling the rear seal is the next best bet; no supplemental oil feed is necessary or even helpful.
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How many retrofits have been done?

Last time I talked to Charles the number of rebuilt IMS shafts was less than a dozen. Granted that was probably several years ago but speaks to how few were being done compared to the earlier IMS versions.
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Last time I talked to Charles the number of rebuilt IMS shafts was less than a dozen. Granted that was probably several years ago but speaks to how few were being done compared to the earlier IMS versions.
Mike, LN now makes an bushing/insert that can be field installed in the third design shaft, with an inner diameter that will accept the field serviceable LN IMS retrofits, including the IMS Solution. So it converts the 06-08 cars to the earlier design:



If you look closely, you can see the bearing is inside an insert. This still requires disassembling the engine for the installation of the bushing, but after that it is field serviceable.

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JFP, Merry Christmas and a special thanks from all the P-car owners you have helped over the years. Your patience and knowledge are both appreciated.
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also a great time to replace seals and the clutch
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While on the topic, whats the price of a dealer/factory teardown and of a competent private job? I'm on the east coast for what it matters.
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Define "teardown". At the high end, replacing any part with known problems with redesigned/improved parts or just crack the case and insert a new upgraded bearing?
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Teardown as I see it means removing engine unit from vehicle totally, then making repair or adjustments. I had an old VW once that required an engine replacement, private mechanic charged $600 odd for labor and replacement engine was around $400 - $500. When repair was complete sun roof stopped working along with heater.

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So you want the labor hours for an R&R, remove and replace. Engine and Trans. put on stand and remove transmission from motor. Not including any repairs. Not including any work to separate case to access IMS. Not including any parts. What year? Model? What transmission?
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