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She was slowing up the line anyway. Sure I stepped around her I couldn't step over her..she was so big. It was all I could do not to stop and laugh.

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Originally Posted by look 171 (Post 10088675)

Went to dinner at Soup Plantation (chain restaurant, salad buffet) this evening. An old lady waiting in line two person in front of me fainted. I pitched my plate to try and catch her fall. I couldn't get her in time because she was just a tiny bit too far, but I did break her fall with my leg so she did not hit her head. This dumb ass 30 something year old man (if he can be called that?) just went around her to get his food and walked away. I held her head up off the ground as I try to look for help. The only other person that come to my aide was the girl busting tables. Everyone just stood there and watched or worst, walked around her to get their food. Her family, sister also an old lady, came and we walked her over to a seat. She started to faint again. This time, I got her and decided its best to allow her to lay on the ground slowly. I felt that she needed to not be up right but had her head on my lap. What's fooking sad was many of the young men were just looking on I had to yell at them to call 911 (thankfully others already did). I was struggling with her because she was heavy and I just don't know how to get at the dead weight without hurting her. A nurse finally came to help. One thing I did notice was no one was filming come to think of it now. I would have been pissed. What the hell happened to us?

Good for you, you did what you could and responded quickly! Unfortunately, what you experienced, seems to be typical of today's society. One thing to remember in a fainting situation, "If the face is red, raise the head. If the face is pail, raise the tail". Usually "raising the tail" only involves raising the feet a bit. An old saying from first aid class!

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Originally Posted by group911@aol.co (Post 10089177)

Good chance to educate yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law
United States...

From cab's post:

..."I'm not saying that would stop me from helping but I can see how it would stop others."

Haven't read the whole thread, but guys like Jeff, and his actions more than make up for the rest of the pack imo. Around here...."events" such as that seem to bring out the best in a lot of folks too imo. I do think the urban/big city environments changes the mindset for many....here too unfortunately, but there are "good people" everywhere...

Thanks for posting and sharing....well done :)!

This is actually covered in CPR/First Aid Training, or at least those that I've attended. People don't know what to do. Bystander effect. Yada Yada Yada. Your task is to bark orders if you stepped up to the plate.

Haven't had a chance to read through all yet, but will do as I have some time later tonight. One thing I experienced through this was, I too was panicking even through this was not a family member, but was trying to help and do my best. I has a hard time lifting a limp body by myself, without hurting her. Forget about barking orders, I was not even thinking about that at the time. Now that many of you mentioned that, I know better next time, but its easier said then done during the situation of panic and just not knowing what to do but lift the person off the ground.

Not I know training will help

A similar thing happened to me a year or two ago. I was at a small fried fish kind of place getting lunch. A old guy suddenly falls out of his chair onto the floor and starts foaming at the mouth. Me and another guy from another table get up to check on him. Everyone else just sat there looking and eating. Well, except for his wife that was muttering "Oh Jesus, oh jesus.", over and over again. I made eye contact with someone sitting down and they said they were calling 911. That was good. The other guy that came over to help wanted to immediately start doing CPR. I was like "Hold on, hes breathing and has a pulse." It was like he just got out of CPR class and wanted to try it out. But at least he jumped into action. Turns out the old guy was having a seizure.

But the whole incident shook me for a few days. The reaction of everyone basically doing nothing, the old guy on the floor looking like hes got some serious issue going on, my own reaction, the other guys mis-diagnosis, the wife freaking out (she was pretty loud and dramatic). It was not something we normally see everyday.

Does not apply in this story, but in CPR class, the instructor said "If a person has no pulse and no breathing, you cant hurt them. They're dead. So at least try to do CPR". Made sense to me.

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Originally Posted by 911_Dude (Post 10091291)

First - thanks for coming to that gent's aid.

In that case, the wife really should have been offering some kind of verbal assistance with regard to medical history or explanation of what was happening to her husband. Unless it was the first time he'd ever had a seizure.

My father had them in the immediate years before his death and we always carried tongue depressors with us just in case.