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Take all of your non-fresh vegetables and freeze them. When you get a pile of them, make vegetable stock (carrots, celery, lettuce and onions are particularly desirable; no potatoes). Old poultry bones, same thing: beef bones, same thing. (smoke the bones for a truly wonderful stock).

Egg shells and depleted beef bones (after making stock) grind them up in your Vitamix and use it for a soil supplement your tomatoes, peppers and roses. Great calcium soil supplement.

Though it seems like a bunch of trouble it is actually a routine that is easy to incorporate, even into a busy schedule.

Oh, and don't get me started about pressure canning and vacuum packing.
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^^^ Excellent, yes. Chicken necks and livers go in the freezer for stock and chicken liver mousse with apple cognac soaked currants.
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Oh, heel yeah I eat the heel.

And just about everything else...
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I eat the heels on all bread. When buying something like a sourdough loaf, or a French boulle, I cut the end off within minutes of arriving home and eat it with some nice European style butter. On a great loaf of bread, the heel is absolutely the best part.

I tend not to waste very much food, if any. I don't think I've ever wasted a leftover. Around here, leftovers are usually breakfast.
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TThe mindset that America is a rich nation so we can squander food.
That mindset took hold and became our mantra right after WWII. All that capacity! all those resources! and consumers ready to spend like there was no tomorrow...!

It's a wonder the earth has any resources left.

(And yes, I love the heel of the bread. I use it to "seal" the insides as I get a couple of slices and then at the end I have two heels for a tasty carbo bomb!)
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^^^ Excellent, yes. Chicken necks and livers go in the freezer for stock and chicken liver mousse with apple cognac soaked currants.
Save the carcasses and smoke them slowly on your bbq when you get enough. One turkey carcass is about 3 or 4 quarts of stock. I use a pressure cooker to really pull the nutrients out of the bone. When done, the bones are just fragile calcium shells. Its all good.
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I like the heels. What about on french bread? That is the best part! Nothing like warm french bread with butter!

What about if there is mold on the bread, do you guys eat it? If there is a small spot, I pinch it off and make my sandwich.
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And what is the origin of "French Bread" (Hint: the term Poolish is a give away)?
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What about if there is mold on the bread, do you guys eat it? If there is a small spot, I pinch it off and make my sandwich.
If it has a large mold infestation, put it in your compost pile.
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Food waste in general is a big issue for me for a lot of reasons. I probably let 5 vegetables go bad per year and I think a few slices of fresh bread got moldy once.y.
Kudos. This takes a lot of food management effort. With only two of us in the house it would be a stretch for us to waste so little. I do feel guilty about wasting food, and our chickens do a superb job of alleviating the guilt. They’ll even pick a boiled chicken carcas clean.
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If it has a large mold infestation, but it in your compost pile.
It is called Penicillin.
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These are rye (fresh milled by me) and 50/50 Hard red/white wheat (again I mill my own). I did 6 loaves that day. Never refrigerate fresh bread, freeze it. These are 68% hydration and superb tasting.


Dan the Man. Those look fantastic!

My parents were art school kids so I grew up eating all sorts of crazy chit food. So if it even slightly resembles food I gratefully eat it. And almost nothing gets thrown out around here.
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Toast, and/or folded over quick peanut butter sammy--so yes!
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Do I eat the heels?

No

I buy a loaf of whole wheat bread, and make sandwiches for my lunch a few days a week. The loaf gets stale before I am ever to out of bread and buy more. I eat leftovers from the fridge or go out to eat with a buddy for lunch on other days.

Do I feel bad about wasting food. NO. I am not about to eat stale bread or the heels. As a kid my parents told me to clean my plate because of the starving kids in China. No matter how full I got, those kids did not feel better. From what I hear, cleaning your plate in China is considered bad manners.

One of my family friends used to own a small chain of grocery stores. They were forced by law to throw away food that was still safe to eat, but could not be sold or even given away. They had to pay a dumpster company to haul away lots of food to the land fill.

If I eat a few pieces of stale bread or the heel just to not waste it, it not only makes me eat stale bread, but I get unwanted calories that I really don't want or need, and it does not do one thing for the starving people of the world.

I also never use the little giblet bag in a whole chicken. That goes right in the trash. I eat the good parts, and chunk the neck, innards, and the back. Life is too short to eat crappy chicken parts.
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Take all of your non-fresh vegetables and freeze them. When you get a pile of them, make vegetable stock (carrots, celery, lettuce and onions are particularly desirable; no potatoes). Old poultry bones, same thing: beef bones, same thing. (smoke the bones for a truly wonderful stock).

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Though it seems like a bunch of trouble it is actually a routine that is easy to incorporate, even into a busy schedule.

Oh, and don't get me started about pressure canning and vacuum packing.


So, what do you think about pressure canning and vacuum packing?
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We don't waste food (or much of anything). People that do often wonder why they don't have more money.
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So, what do you think about pressure canning and vacuum packing?
I am sensing an innuendo here!

But if not, every couple of years I make a bunch of marinara and can it. Give a bunch to the neighbors. Vacuum packing in mason jars for pesto, and horse radish as well as carnitas, chili verdi, chili colorado, etc.

The pressure cooker infuses the flavors for a wide variety of dishes. Pork butt and ribs for bbq in a pressure cooker, vacuum, freeze and finish when you want. It is just good stuff.
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Bread is a good thickener for soup. E.g. When making a chowder, cut up bread and cook it in the milk/cream until dissolved. Avoids the hassle of a flour roux and the gloopy texture of corn starch. Bread can be heel, crumbs, dry, etc
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