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Turbo and Direct Injection
My new WRX (which i absolutely love) has direct injection.
Apart from the well documented BMW and Audi (go figure :rolleyes:) direct injection issues with carboned up intake valves, what other cars do you have experience with that have had to have the intake valves cleaned regularly / periodically? Most of my driving is at highway speed with the engine at 2700 RPM. Will highway driving accelerate or alleviate this issue? There are a few aftermarket 'fixes' available such as oil catch cans, water / meth injection, EGR delete but I don't want to interfere with my warranty to fix a problem that I may not encounter. |
One item that reduces liquid oil in the intake tract / combustion chamber is an aftermarket oil liquid / vapor separator. It is installed in series with your vacuum side PCV. All modern engines have very low friction - tension piston rings, especially the oil rings which create the most drag.
The benefit is low rotational friction loss - improved power / mileage and performance. Down side is when you run them hard they will push liquid oil into the PCV system. Look into that for your specific application. Also cheap / non branded / gasoline has less additives to prevent this. My experience - use a top tier brand like Shell gasoline. Take that part out of the equation. |
Something I cant understand is how fuel brand could make a difference. With direct injection, the fuel is injected into the combustion chamber directly so it never sees the back of the intake valve like it would in a port injection engine.
I've seen comments like this elsewhere and don't understand the logic. I'm not saying its wrong. |
I'm baffled by this too unclebilly (backside of valves never see the gas). I do know that Honda CR-V turbo's have been experiencing gas in the oil to a certain extent, with some reporting the oil is way over full when they check their level.
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There are a lot of good oil separators on the market, as Asphaltgambler said above, google to find a good one for your application. For me, its cheap insurance.
Also, I'd thought the Subaru DI engines also used secondary port injection in part to wash the valves. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/explained-why-some-engines-have-both-port-and-direct-injection https://oppositelock.kinja.com/state-of-the-flat-4-us-my2017-1794660042 Maybe just the BRZ ?? |
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This came up on another forum. Some companies seem to have the bugs worked out on their DI engines. Many do not. |
I think it is oil vapour from the PCV or oil separator that enters into the intake system and then ends up on the valves. I just removed the intake manifold from the BMW e60 (not direct inj) and was surprised how much oil film was in there, it uses a oil separator and they often fail. The intake valves looked fairly clean probably from the fuel constantly washing them.
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Egr
exhaust gas recirculation |
Just about all modern engines are now direct injected. Very few experience any sort of carbon buildup. This was super common on early DI engines but is mostly a non-issue by this point. If you have a nearly new WRX you should be fine.
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Your highway driving with a properly warmed up engine will be a plus in many ways including the health of your intake. I have a 2009 BMW E61 that has the twin turbo N54 engine in it. I use a catch can and periodically run an FI cleaner/additive like BK or Motul. It seems to help.
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There are by- products of combustion from fuel that will make its way to your oil. Cheap branded gas will over time leave by- products in your oil - which will make its way into the PCV system.
Also most production turbo's will seep small amounts of pressurized engine oil into the intake tract. |
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