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Not in Japan. They love their new cars here. Very few old cars on the road and most people seem to trade them in well before 100,000 KILOMETERS.
Works out well for me as I could m buy a 16 year old Benz and a 12 year old BMW for ‘peanuts’.
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So, engines are better. What about electronics, bushings, bearings, pumps, compressors? What all is going to die between 100K and 200K while that nicely engineered engine is humming right along?
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Old 11-06-2018, 08:37 PM
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Just last night, my wife commented that her Jeep Liberty was getting really rusty rocker panels and said "It doesn't even have 200,000 miles yet" like that was the new normal....which, for our family seems to be true.
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My ol' F150 has almost 190K....still looks fine and is my DD, and going strong. Tranny went belly-up 50k ago....that's about it. I'll drive this sucker for a while still....I suspect.
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Wasn't it Quaker State that had the rep of doing that...based on what I remember hearing. Where's Lubbymaster when ya need him?
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I ran my 2005.5 Jetta to 220,000 miles, fully expecting more so I could pass it down to my son, when a myriad of smaller ancillary issues made me move it aside (electrical gremlins). Still had the original clutch, shocks and muffler - all things that I would have thought would need replacement by then too..

We pushed our 2005 Sienna to a measly 180,000 miles before time (well, my wife grew tired of it) pushed it out the door. I presume its still in use somewhere on its way to 300K miles!

Agreed that 200 is the new 100..
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220K on my '02 Silverado and still running smooth as silk!

4.8L Vortec engine

Bought it used in '05 with 90K on the clock.

Hope to get at least 300K on her as I move into semi-retirement.

She'll stay with me as long as possible....
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BMWs may be the exception. However, we got my son a 99 328i E46 with 90k on the clock. I have been tending to it replacing the cooling system/window regs./etc./etc. It now has 215k. He drives it very carefully because the clutch has over 100k miles.
Also, along with Baz, I bought a 2006 Tahoe with 100k on the clock a few years ago. Cheap and easy to fix most things compared to fern cars. Even if I don't feel like fixing something the cost is not outrageous to have someone do it.
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220K on my '02 Silverado and still running smooth as silk!

4.8L Vortec engine

Bought it used in '05 with 90K on the clock.

Hope to get at least 300K on her as I move into semi-retirement.

She'll stay with me as long as possible....
215, on my 04 6.0 2500 HD. Like you, I decided to run it till the frame rusts in half. It still burns zero oil, and makes zero noise. Has been the most reliable vehicle I have ever owned, even over Honda's.
Amazing for a product from Chevrolet at a period that I consider a low point in American vehicle engineering .
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265k on a Lexus GS300. 160k on 2012 f150 . The only major repairs the Lexus had were a radiator and heater core. So far no issues with the Ford.
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I've heard the two biggest reasons today's engines last longer are:

-Overdrive transmissions. Less engine wear to cover the same distance= more distance.
-Oil technology. Today's oil is far superior than what was available a few decades ago.
I don't think you can narrow it down to a few things. A broad range of improvements all contribute. Just a few:

Better metallurgy and more precise cooling leads to longer valve life.
Better manufacturing to closer tolerances = better sealing of the cylinders & less wear metal in the oil = longer oil life.
Better fuel mixture control = less excess fuel in the cylinders = less wear and less fuel in the oil = longer oil life.
Better fuel mixture control also leads to better, more consistent cylinder temperatures = less wear on rings and pistons.
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I buddy was over here the other day. He is still driving a Ford Pickup he bought new. It now has 240,000 miles on it. Same engine, same transmission. Very little has gone wrong with it.

My El Camino came with a 305 and I pretty much wore it out out after 300,000 miles. It still ran fine but it smoked a bit. Just $1,700 for a brand new crate 350 and a long weekend, and it was back on the road. I just rolled 362,000 miles recently and had to replace the water pump. Free pump (warranty, new pump, not a reman) just the pain if the installation.

So to answer the OP, I would say 300,000 is the new 100,000
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for me? 200,000 represents an old car. its the time duration, not the mileage.

i'm at 160,000 smooth running miles with my 12 year old truck. its the expiration date i'm worried about, not the odometer. i think my truck will come apart eventually due to the time.
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My most recent 2 e36's were over 200k, the 318is was ~240. Current accord is ~190, taco over 200, Sante fe is 170k.... Would drive any of them anywhere. I think its pretty amazing you can put in minimal if any maintenance and get to 100k in just about anything today.

I also have a love/hate with my silverado. 99 1500 ~150k, love the 5.3 but the body is rusting away. I would like to keep it another few years but the rockers are getting so bad I'm not sure.
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I think early 2000s was the sort of golden era for car reliability and longevity (Unless its a porsche ). The tech was good enough, but they weren't overly complicated. Cars in the last few years have so many sensors/actuators and sub systems to fail I think they are actually more disposable than comparable cars from 15-20 years ago. There is also substantially more plastic lines and primary components that seem to get hard and fail in the 10-15 year timeframe.
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Also: I have a hunch there has been a change in mentality in car engineering in the last few decades. The whole world is trending towards disposibility> I think the design constraints have moved towards making parts with a set lifespan at a set probability (say 150kmiles) rather than as long as possible.
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I certainly welcome the longevity we get out of cars now days. Because of cars I remember from decades ago, I still get nervous when a car gets to have over 100K miles. My first car was a '55 Ford (in '59), and at that time if you got 60K-70K out of a car you were lucky. We sold my wife's Camry at 125K miles for a third of what we paid (after 10 years) to a young couple that didn't bat an eye over the mileage. Her current car just passed 100K, and I'm trying to resist the nervousness and tendency to change it out for a new one.
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in my Japanese-car experience, yes. I didn't have to replace anything on my '93 Sentra SE-R until the starter died at about 190k. Currently at 222k and needs PS work and a worn door hinge and I replaced a PS pump about a decade ago. Engines runs like a champ, uses no oil; gearbox great, original clutch. In 2004 I bought an Infiniti G20t with about 90k miles on it and drove it for another 90k miles before I sold it to a friend who drove it for another 30k or so before getting rid of it. Both of those cars did go or have gone to about 200k before needing much more than normal maintenance and replacement of wear items.
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220K on my '02 Silverado and still running smooth as silk!
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215, on my 04 6.0 2500 HD.
Chevy builds a good truck. Recently sold my 2001 K2500HD (to a friend!) with 268,000 miles. Vortec 6,0. Still running strong.
Maintenance history, outside of 5k oil changes:
100k- Change belts & hoses, preventative.
180k- New fuel pump
200k- Change belts & hoses, preventative.
200k- New front brake pads, rears still have 40%.
220k- Though working flawlessly, I realize it still has original starter and alternator. Don't want to get stranded, so I removed both, had new brushes and bearings put in, and stuck them back in the truck.
268k- A friend asks if he can buy the truck for a business he is starting. Everything still working as new.
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