On the streets of San Francisco

[Bugsinrugs]

My daughter snapped this today on her lunch break. This guy has nothing to be proud of. What a city. Not in a good way.

[Bugsinrugs]

Cancelled....inappropriate picture. Just some naked old man carrying a briefcase.

[Craig T]

It seems 10% of the people on the downtown SF streets are homeless or mentally ill. Unfortunately, after Gavin Newsom is elected, the entire damned state will.lool like that.

[Steve Carlton]

You can't take away the picture!

[look 171]

Originally Posted by Craig T

It seems 10% of the people on the downtown SF streets are homeless or mentally ill. Unfortunately, after Gavin Newsom is elected, the entire damned state will.lool like that.

Oh Greg, I surely hope not. I know we are leaning that way.

[Tobra]

Michael Douglas just got a star on the Walk of Fame

[pwd72s]

She could move to Portland or Seattle to get away from that kind of stuff.

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by pwd72s

She could move to Portland or Seattle to get away from that kind of stuff.

Have you been to San Francisco recently? I go to Portland and Seattle a couple times a year. They don't even compare. Two months ago my wife and I walked from The Marker (the old Hotel Monaco) to Le Colonial (Super cool French Vietnamese Restaurant). Maybe three blocks. During our walk I was almost pee'd on once, a very smelly homeless guy grabbed my wife's arm asking for money and I had to push him away hard, and we saw a guy shooting heroin up agains an office building right on Post St. On every corner is some guy screaming obscenities at God, the devil, or some demons he's seeing. From a concentration standpoint, there's nothing like it anywhere else in the US.

[Tobra]

Gavin Newsome will share this with the rest of the state, and with rest of the country in a few years if he gets his way.

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Tobra

Gavin Newsome will share this with the rest of the state, and with rest of the country in a few years if he gets his way.

You are absolutley right...President Newsome has a nice Socialist ring to it....

[Hugh R]

^^^^

I think I just threw up a little in my mouth..

[tabs]

Originally Posted by Hugh R

^^^^

I think I just threw up a little in my mouth..

You will being doing a lot of that in the future...

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by Craig T

Have you been to San Francisco recently? I go to Portland and Seattle a couple times a year. They don't even compare. Two months ago my wife and I walked from The Marker (the old Hotel Monaco) to Le Colonial (Super cool French Vietnamese Restaurant). Maybe three blocks. During our walk I was almost pee'd on once, a very smelly homeless guy grabbed my wife's arm asking for money and I had to push him away hard, and we saw a guy shooting heroin up agains an office building right on Post St. On every corner is some guy screaming obscenities at God, the devil, or some demons he's seeing. From a concentration standpoint, there's nothing like it anywhere else in the US.

PARADISE I tell you, pure paradise.
No wonder they think it's their job to tell the rest of the world how to live.

[vash]

all this soapbox preaching...

lets hear your solutions!!! how would you fix it?

didnt nevada get sued for sending them to CA?

[dan88911]

Don't worry Prop. C will take care of it.

[Craig T]

Originally Posted by vash

all this soapbox preaching...

lets hear your solutions!!! how would you fix it?

didnt nevada get sued for sending them to CA?

How about we send one of SF's mentally ill homeless to Mexico for every Central American illegal immigrant they allow to pass through their country into the US. I would think the problem would be solved in about two weeks.

[vash]

okay..let me up the ante..realistic solutions.

[Tobra]

^I support Craig's plan^

What is unrealistic, how much is a bus ticket? California will have to completely implode before it can get any better.

[gtc]

To be fair, the Tenderloin (where you stayed) is possibly the very worst part of San Francisco.
There are plenty of other beautiful, vibrant, and historic neighborhoods you could have chosen.

I do wish people would pick up litter and wash their sidewalks off once in a while. That's one thing the whole city seems to suffer from.

Originally Posted by Craig T

Have you been to San Francisco recently? I go to Portland and Seattle a couple times a year. They don't even compare. Two months ago my wife and I walked from The Marker (the old Hotel Monaco) to Le Colonial (Super cool French Vietnamese Restaurant). Maybe three blocks. During our walk I was almost pee'd on once, a very smelly homeless guy grabbed my wife's arm asking for money and I had to push him away hard, and we saw a guy shooting heroin up agains an office building right on Post St. On every corner is some guy screaming obscenities at God, the devil, or some demons he's seeing. From a concentration standpoint, there's nothing like it anywhere else in the US.

[sammyg2]

Originally Posted by vash

all this soapbox preaching...

lets hear your solutions!!! how would you fix it?

didnt nevada get sued for sending them to CA?

We have to ask, why the increase in homeless people?
There was a time when it was hard to live on the streets. No one wanted to live on the streets, everyone really tried to find a different way. it sucked.
Getting arrested, getting chased away, nobody lining up to give you free stuff all the time, not very many idjuts handing out money on the off-ramps, not very many good-intention pavers handing out free food and blankets and tents and such. Enablers.

So we didn't have that many people living on the streets. They looked for and found something better. they had what we like to call an INCENTIVE!!!!!!!!

But then, we decided it would be a really good idea to encourage bad behavior, to enable it, to REWARD it.
We started playing nice-nice to people trashing our streets and neighborhoods.
We started giving them money, we started giving them food and letting them take over any place they darn well pleased. And their numbers grew.

Some folks tried to lie and blame the problem on the economy or some other such nonsense, but we all knew better.

So the hand-wringing ninnies said "hey lets double-down and do even more of the dumb stuff that caused this epidemic, and see if we get a different result this time".

But it didn't work, to no one's surprise.
and the problem grew.

Al those good intentions actually HURT lots and lots of people.
All those people pretending to save the world, but they were condemning instead of helping.
But they keep right on keeping on with their false smugness.




Stop encouraging and rewarding bad behavior. Make it uncomfortable and unpleasant to live like that and they'll find a different way to live.

If we keep making it easy to drop out and act like that, their numbers will continue to grow.

And the ninnies will wring their hands and do whatever they can to make it even worse.


No more excuses.