Thousand Oaks shooting
 

So far, 12 dead, including a responding Sherriff and the gunman.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/fatalities-reported-after-gunman-opens-fire-at-thousand-oaks-bar/ar-BBPtbEz?l&OCID=ansmsnnews11

Just another CIA sponsored attempt to take away our 2nd amendment.

On that note....

Which one of California's various draconian gun control laws was supposed to prevent this?

The laws need to change! We always need lots more laws! We need to make it illegal to kill people! That will stop those shootings!

The only thing I've heard about the firearm was black semi-auto.

I heard it was one handgun with "extended magazines." We all know anything over 10 rounds is banned in CA. This perp must not have been deterred by the weapons charge when committing mass murder. Don't think this won't lead to more calls for more bans.

I do wish people would get a better understanding that when illegal acts are performed laws are not "protection".

Yeh right after midterms??
We will get sketchy facts and no clear info on shooter or motive.
Propaganda will run for a week or so on taking away our second amendment.
No real investigation will happen.
If you apply for reports through freedom of information act they will deny you just like Sandy Hook, Las Vegas, et et et.
By the time people wake up and realize their being duped it will be too late,
Look at how many people believe this Russia BS
The Sheep are being led to slaughter and are too stupid to realize it.

If these shootings were not plastered all over every single news source, if they didn't sensationalize the phony drama of people acting all emotional even though they were not affected in any way, if these shootings were not the HOT TOPIC OF THE DAY on every type of social media, then the crazies would not consider getting some of this attention for themselves.
The sensationalism is fuel for the fire, don't be part of the problem.

EOM.

I thought Obama had already taken away everyone's guns, which is why you need to 3-D print one now

Obviously more guns are the answer, just like spending your way out of debt.

WTF is wrong with you people? 12 people lose their lives and lot go off on a gun law CIA conspiracy theory rant. People just lost family members and this is how you think is an appropriate response. We are truly lost.

^^^this

Because no tragedy will be wasted when political gain is possible.

But you knew that.

Ok, but we'll be waiting for your outrage at the first politician who calls for a new gun law as a result of this latest tragedy. Anyone want to bet on it not happening before the 6 o'clock news today?

307th mass shooting in the US in 313 days.

Total BS. We've had one mass shooting per day? Where do you get your news?

Gun owners no longer believe in the decency or common sense of the socialists. Gun owners feel increasingly besieged.

Further these shootings are symptomatic of increasing stresses in American society as it losses cohesiveness due to economic stresses.

Some might claim that it is due to a morally relativist society that has lost its belief in God.

Gun owners are a group of people who all believe a certain way? nope wrong.
I worked in the industry for over 10 years and I can tell you they come from all walks of life, political beliefs, race, religion, etc.

God you guys are sick. 24 people in the last week have died in mass shootings. I understand you are fanatical about your guns, but can’t you see we need to do SOMETHING?

Where does your right to own a gun overlap my right to safety?