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Jeppesen charts

I just found out about these today, which is weird/embarrassing , since my dad lived out his last years in an airpark. (I never caught the flying bug, flew a few times with his cronies, but it was just more or less laps around the airpark)

All I can say is Wow. The Jeppesen paper charts are staggering. To think that you pilots out there were using these in every condition to get all the necessary flight information is mind boggling. So much information per square inch of gi-normous maps. Stress? What stress? !!

I guess that every day is Christmas Day, now that you can use electronic charts on an ipad. (And the e-charts are unbelievably amazing in their own right!)

I suppose mariners have the same information?

It's another school day for me!!

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I suppose mariners have the same information?
I don't know about the charts but I have a friend that is big time into deep sea fishing and like you say the electronics they have today are amazing.
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Updates. Ugh.

Every week a manila envelope would arrive from Jeppesen with charts & approach plates that had revisions.

My dad gave me the job of going through the thick Jepp binder and exchanging every page that had changes for that week. Everything must be kept current to be legal.
Double check the page, double check the date, go ahead and swap that one page. Then on to the next.

An iPad with Foreflight software- Automatic updates? Always current? Wow!
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For those that don't know, Mr. Jeppesen was an early airmail pilot.
He started taking detailed notes about roads, rivers, railroad tracks and water towers so he could find his destinations in during poor weather. Started making up arrival procedures using landmarks and compass headings.

Other pilots asked for a copy. A business was born.
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Updates. Ugh.
An iPad with Foreflight software- Automatic updates? Always current? Wow!
Perhaps some still use paper charts?
I would expect everything on a tablet or screen by now?

Clint carried a charts bag for part of his pilot disguise.

https://youtu.be/LzbCBfi5-Bw

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The EFB that we use today is in a word - AWESOME! I can't imagine the days of carrying that large and very heavy chart case. What a PITA that was. Everything we need is on a Surface or Ipad. Jepp Charts, Foreflight, ALL company manuals, AOM, FOM, Performance - everything...
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I updated the thick binder of Jepp charts for over 30 years. It was a pita but it was nice to have a printed chart in front of me but I'm pretty old school. I retired in 2006 and the "E" charts were just then coming in. No one is paying me to fly any more, so I don't fly when the weather is IMC. I use a small GPS receiver with fore flight and a mini ipad and I can navigate anywhere in the country with it. Having said that, I still carry paper sectional charts in case aliens shoot down all the GPS satellites.
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For those that don't know, Mr. Jeppesen was an early airmail pilot.
He started taking detailed notes about roads, rivers, railroad tracks and water towers so he could find his destinations in during poor weather. Started making up arrival procedures using landmarks and compass headings.

Other pilots asked for a copy. A business was born.
That is very cool, I did not know that story.

Even with GPS, I always had back-up paper charts...even on nap of the earth, low level flight on NVG's.

I just felt better.
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Back in the day of early airmail and before instrument flight and charts, there were (still are) concrete arrows and lighted beacons pointing the way.

Arrows Across America- concrete arrows

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