What does the "Not Secure" mean on the search bar for the PPOT website?

A930Rocket · 12-08-2018, 03:55 PM

What does the "Not Secure" mean on the search bar for the PPOT website?

I only see it here.

Not secure: Proceed with caution. Something is severely wrong with the privacy of this site’s connection. Someone might be able to see the information you send or get through this site.

id10t · 12-08-2018, 03:59 PM

There is no SSL being used to deliver the page.

SSL *is* used for login which is all that matters.

But the browsers now all indicate both the secure and insecure status of any page being viewed. Not that SSL is needed for most things, just exchange of potentially sensitive information.

stevej37 · 12-08-2018, 04:26 PM

Prob shouldn't show your soc sec number on any replies.
Otherwise...all is good.

cabmandone · cabmandone's Garage

It means the website didn't give in to google's demands and pay for a ssl certificate.

id10t · 12-08-2018, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cabmando

It means the website didn't give in to google's demands and pay for a ssl certificate.

1 - google isn't demanding it, firefox implements the same.

2 - the EFF provides free SSL certificates. Simple and easy to get, takes 5 minutes to set up.

A930Rocket · 12-08-2018, 05:40 PM

Thanks, guys.

KFC911 · 12-09-2018, 02:57 AM

All your posts....they're out there for everyone to read....

Scares the crap out of me too

cabmandone · cabmandone's Garage

I'm sorry to hear that Firefox is following Google's lead. I can open edge click on the lock and see that "your connection to the server is encrypted" whereas if I click on not secure "you should not enter any sensitive information..." So is it encrypted and my data safe or not. I'm going with it is.

KFC911 · 12-09-2018, 04:49 AM

Take off yer tin foil hat. Google doesn't give a poop imo....nor do I

. Outside of a few things (logon/passwords).....why would one insist that PARF and bikini bridge threads be encrypted in transmission...high level govt snoopers

?

cabmandone · cabmandone's Garage

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Originally Posted by KC911

Take off yer tin foil hat. Google doesn't give a poop imo....nor do I

. Outside of a few things (logon/passwords).....why would one insist that PARF and bikini bridge threads be encrypted in transmission...high level govt snoopers

?

Google was the one driving the push and you can bet it wasn't merely to improve the security of the internet. No tinfoil conspiracy stuff here. Google was a driving force in this and even improved your position in search results if you had an SSL as I understand it.
I really don't care, but if you look you'll find that google was pushing for SSL use. I use a popular website builder and was told that google was pushing SSL's and that I should purchase one with my website. I didn't fully understand SSL's nor do I now so I purchased one and my site had that pretty green lock rather than that scary red caution with "not secure" next to it. After I purchased, I started reading about SSL's and found in several places that Google was pushing it for better security to prevent others from seeing your activity or something along those lines. I found that the SSL is really only necessary for sites involved in e-commerce which my site isn't. Kinda pissed away some money there but didn't want my customers coming to my site seeing that "not secure" and leaving the site out of security concerns. Lesson learned.

KFC911 · 12-09-2018, 05:36 AM

OK...I was looking at this strictly from a techie's perspective.... I stand corrected. Google is about maximizing profits....

As a browser user....I don't care if yer web site has porn (tractors

) that traverse the Internet for all to see....I really don't. Very small % of traffic is worthy...

Unle$$ $ome $ucker$ ....$heeple$ fall for it

cabmandone · cabmandone's Garage

Hey man, No tractors here! skid steer loaders, mini excavators and the coolest UTV on the planet the Toolcat.

KFC911 · 12-09-2018, 05:59 AM

Hard core XXX stuff

?

svandamme · svandamme's Garage

OpSec on PARF is just not secure, at all.

cabmandone · cabmandone's Garage

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911

Hard core XXX stuff

?

The ladies don't hurt sales

cstreit · cstreit's Garage

Browsers have started flagging all websites that do not force SSL for all connections. Your data is sent back and forth in clear text.

Pelican will work either way. However you'll see that unlike 2 years ago where most sites only used SSL for data that had to be secure (logins, checkout, etc..) almost all use it full time. THere was a rumor that Google would de-rank sites that used non secure connections.

I changed our site to 100% secure while ago just in case.

KFC911 · 12-09-2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando

The ladies don't hurt sales

A Toolcat...'nuff said...naw...

A secure Toolcat

;!

KFC911 · 12-09-2018, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by cstreit

Browsers have started flagging all websites that do not force SSL for all connections. Your data is sent back and forth in clear text.

Pelican will work either way. However you'll see that unlike 2 years ago where most sites only used SSL for data that had to be secure (logins, checkout, etc..) almost all use it full time. THere was a rumor that Google would de-rank sites that used non secure connections.

I changed our site to 100% secure while ago just in case.

But you know it's a moot point too...unless you follow the $

. For the vast majority of sites....a total non-issue (probably...imo?), but I have personally seen some that it would....it just depends. Encryption/decryption isn't "free" either...most IP traffic is "open"...so sniff away

cstreit · cstreit's Garage

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911

But you know it's a moot point too...unless you follow the $

. For the vast majority of sites....a total non-issue (probably...imo?), but I have personally seen some that it would....it just depends. Encryption/decryption isn't "free" either...most IP traffic is "open"...so sniff away

I've given up trying to understand the vagaries of Google. What I do know is that without SSL certain content is blocked in Firefox and breaks our site. No bueno.

KFC911 · 12-09-2018, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cstreit

I've given up trying to understand the vagaries of Google. What I do know is that without SSL certain content is blocked in Firefox and breaks our site. No bueno.

The "geek" in me would want to dig in and figure out what "exactly" was happening on the IP connections to your site (also connecting to Google servers like PPOT does mebbe?)....but he retired...

Bueno is bueno