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DWBOX2000 01-29-2019 06:14 AM

I will never get it.
 
There is a 89 911 Speedster on BAT right now that is at 106k. It's not a super fast car, it not a particularly beautiful car. Looks like a regular mid year cab. Yeah they made less speedsters but the car is just not different enough that most would even know it was different than a regular cab. If I am paying that kind of money, I would want it to be a standout car.

I get it is whatever the market will pay, I just don't get why. I might pay $30-35k, other than that, I would look for another Porsche. Is it just being able to snub your nose as the regular cab guys/gals?

BeyGon 01-29-2019 06:21 AM

ok then, go buy a regular 89 cab for your 30-35 and tell us how that goes.

cabmandone 01-29-2019 07:08 AM

I'd entertain the idea of 40K not sayin I'd sell... but I'd think about it.

scottmandue 01-29-2019 07:12 AM

This will probably go way over $30K but RE: a recent thread where a pelican was looking at +$100K Ferrari's if I had that kind of money this is what I would be looking at:

https://bringatrailer.com/porsche/930-turbo/

Bob Kontak 01-29-2019 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DWBOX2000 (Post 10335057)
Looks like a regular mid year cab.

Yes and no. It has the Turbo goodies without the engine.

KFC911 01-29-2019 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 10335142)
Yes and no. It has the Turbo goodies without the engine.

My '88 has 'em too....minty Diamond Blue
....first come....

60k might do it ;)

JeremyD 01-29-2019 07:38 AM

it has the cut down windscreen - which last I heard was $12,000 to replace - so it's got that going for it

racer 01-29-2019 07:49 AM

plus limited production numbers.. (had to use up those unsellable turbo cab bodies somehow).. and the name "speedster".

Noah930 01-29-2019 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 10335142)
Yes and no. It has the Turbo goodies without the engine.

Yeah, but the engine's the best of the turbo goodies!

I don't get it either. Limited numbers or not, I'd rather have the lighter 911 cab, or the more powerful 930 cab. The Speedster's the last of the cab variants in which I'd be interested.

BeyGon 01-29-2019 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10335120)
I'd entertain the idea of 40K not sayin I'd sell... but I'd think about it.

and yours isn't an 89

DWBOX2000 01-29-2019 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 10335063)
ok then, go buy a regular 89 cab for your 30-35 and tell us how that goes.

Your right, I wouldn't because likely a beater at that cost. I guess it's the limited number thing and the goodies. Still hardly justifies in my head but who am I to say. Whatever makes you happy I guess.

cabmandone 01-29-2019 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BeyGon (Post 10335292)
and yours isn't an 89

Which makes it even MORE valuable! :D... it's a "classic"

KFC911 01-29-2019 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by cabmando (Post 10335326)
Which makes it even MORE valuable! :D... it's a "classic"

Mine is an "Edition" too... Commemorates at least a 10k premium, ea$y...throw in '88 (the BEST year imo)....cha-ching!

speeder 01-29-2019 01:20 PM

It sold for $125k plus $5k buyer’s fee= $130k. They have sold for quite a bit more at times, not sure if the market is up or down right now. I don’t follow them.

They’ve always been somewhat collectible since they came out. The problem is that cars like that, “planned classics”, is that all of them were bought to look at rather than drive and most have extremely low miles and just go from auction to auction. No one has ever gotten much pleasure from owning one, you can’t really drive it like a regular car and they haven’t appreciated much.

The aforementioned $12k windshield can sort of ruin a blast up the coast, stone chips are a part of life.

Bob Kontak 01-29-2019 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by speeder (Post 10335655)
........... “planned classics”, is that all of them were bought to look at rather than drive and most have extremely low miles and just go from auction to auction. No one has ever gotten much pleasure from owning one, you can’t really drive it like a regular car and they haven’t appreciated much.

Nicholas Cage would vouch for this. His went in the lake with just a few hundred miles on the clock. Mind you, this event is over is ten years old. Pricing is meaningless.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1989-PORSCHE-911-CARRERA-SPEEDSTER-NICHOLAS-CAGES-65790

LWJ 01-29-2019 04:09 PM

I have always really loved those cars. Sorry. I think they are cool.

BeyGon 01-29-2019 04:28 PM

I have ridden in this car, it is damn fast.


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1548811620.JPG
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1548811620.JPG

Shaun @ Tru6 01-29-2019 04:53 PM

Subjective I know but I think these Speedsters are the best looking of all the impact bumper car variants. The windshield and flares with no tail is magic. Have gone tailless on the on the M491 for a while now, love the look.

speeder 01-29-2019 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Kontak (Post 10335676)
Nicholas Cage would vouch for this. His went in the lake with just a few hundred miles on the clock. Mind you, this event is over is ten years old. Pricing is meaningless.

https://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1989-PORSCHE-911-CARRERA-SPEEDSTER-NICHOLAS-CAGES-65790

I'd have taken a swing at that for $57k. Holy sheet. I'm imagining that they did a pretty good job of vacuuming the water out of it. :)

Meaningless trivia: I was in acting class w Nick 100 years ago when he was still Nicholas Coppola. Did lots of scenes w him, super nice guy.

onewhippedpuppy 01-30-2019 04:05 AM

Denis’ comment about planned classics is an interesting one. The original Speedster became a classic due to its popularity as a race car, it’s basic and lightweight design, and a connection to James Dean. Porsche didn’t make it with the intention of becoming a classic, it just happens to be appreciated as one. The Carrera based Speedster is basically a styling exercise that is nothing special underneath, and it’s really only unique as a showpiece. Sadly that’s the case with many modern “classics”, just another car to impress your fellow collectors and polish in the garage. It all seems rather contrived.

GH85Carrera 01-30-2019 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10335942)
Subjective I know but I think these Speedsters are the best looking of all the impact bumper car variants. The windshield and flares with no tail is magic. Have gone tailless on the on the M491 for a while now, love the look.

Really, wow. I guess it is a good thing we are all free to have opinions, and I will not complain about your freedom to have bad taste. I think that 911 Speedster is a ugly duckling, hacked up mess. I own a 85 911 Coupe, and I will admit a very slight prejudice toward the coupe as the best of all the 911 models. The SC and Carrera models are THE look of the 911 at its best. Just my opinion.

Shaun @ Tru6 01-30-2019 05:17 AM

Regular 911 coupes are ok looking, have had several, they all got to stay in bed while eating crackers, but Turbo body cabs and coupes both look better than regular 911 coupes. The low slung windshield, wide flares and an aggressive stance on a Speedster is pure sex. The lines just flow. At least you don't think midyears are sexy, those are akin to 10 year old boys.

Turbo Targas, those are monstrosities.

cairns 01-30-2019 05:48 AM

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I think that 911 Speedster is a ugly duckling, hacked up mess.
The 997 version is even worse. Two butt ugly and they all got snapped up by "investors".

masraum 01-30-2019 06:24 AM

I have a hard time with the turbo-look cars because they do have handling and braking upgrades, but they are heavier with worse aero, so slower at the top end. But then how much of our time would be spent there compared to the low end.

A speedster would, imo look better as a narrow body. They were supposed to be the lightweight agile cars. I'm not sure that the extra 4" of width for the turbo body accomplishes that. How much lighter were they than the regular carrera? Unless it was at least 200#, then they missed the mark. I guess they did at least have the turbo suspension and brakes?

For me, something like the speedster should have enhanced performance (more than just a tiny bit).

Maybe if I ever drove one (which is unlikely at this point) I would change my mind. As stated, I wouldn't kick any '78-98 911 out of bed for leaving a slick wetspot on the sheets.

The worst '78-98 911 is still pretty darn good.

DWBOX2000 01-30-2019 06:54 AM

I love the wide body look as I love all Porsches (Less the wagons and 4 doors but understood a necessary evil). I just don't get spending that kind of money for a car no one but your most die hard person will even realize it is different, viewing or driving.

For that kind of money, I could have Shaun Build a SE Budka Edition with any old mid year and the experience of the drive and appearance would justify the cost. :)

Shaun @ Tru6 01-30-2019 10:18 AM

Just wait until I get the 4.0 MFI engine done before placing your order.

ZAMIRZ 01-31-2019 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10336457)
I have a hard time with the turbo-look cars because they do have handling and braking upgrades, but they are heavier with worse aero, so slower at the top end. But then how much of our time would be spent there compared to the low end.

A speedster would, imo look better as a narrow body. They were supposed to be the lightweight agile cars. I'm not sure that the extra 4" of width for the turbo body accomplishes that. How much lighter were they than the regular carrera? Unless it was at least 200#, then they missed the mark. I guess they did at least have the turbo suspension and brakes?

For me, something like the speedster should have enhanced performance (more than just a tiny bit).

Maybe if I ever drove one (which is unlikely at this point) I would change my mind. As stated, I wouldn't kick any '78-98 911 out of bed for leaving a slick wetspot on the sheets.

The worst '78-98 911 is still pretty darn good.

They made narrowbody 89 Speedsters, but not for US market.

racer 01-31-2019 09:17 AM

and narrowbody speedsters in 94


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