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wayner 01-29-2019 11:59 AM

You can dress for the cold. (-50)

you can't undress any further for heat (+50)

ckelly78z 01-29-2019 12:08 PM

I will take a face mask, heavy gloves, and my insulated snow boots, and leave them in the car in case of trouble. When I wake up in the morning, I will put my Mustang on a battery charger for 1/2 hour while I get ready, to help the 6 year old battery get through (haven't had any issues yet with it, except for when it sits for a few days).

I may start my propane Mr.Buddy heater at 4:30 am in the unheated concrete basement, and let it run until my wife gets up 2-3 hours later, and start it again when I get home. -40 windchill with -16 temps for tomorrow.

Crowbob 01-29-2019 12:15 PM

A huge amount of cold tolerance is attitudinal. During one horrible winter in college, I’d go outside and my entire body would tense up and entire spine would go rigid. So I thought about for a second.

When I’d go outside (dressed appropriately, meaning coat, hat, gloves, boots but nothing extreme) I immediately felt like I was freezing to death. The kind of cold I was experiencing could not possibly have penetrated my clothes and cooled my core as if I was hypothermic in just a matter of seconds.

So I’m thinking I just have to walk a few blocks or whatever to where the next class or whatnot was and I’ll be warm again. So just relax. Make the trek and be done with it.

Voila! Not fighting the cold allowed me to move better, generate more heat (it seemed like) and just not be insulted so bad by the cold. Pretty soon I’m finding myself preparing my mind and body for the cold blast just as surely as putting on a coat, etc.

Way more tolerable to this day.

wayner 01-29-2019 12:53 PM

I just found out an interesting tidbit

An oven mit is designed to help your hand withstand a 40 degree C difference in heat for 3 about minutes.

My winter gloves are designed to help my hand withstand a 40 degree C difference in the other direction for a couple of hours.

sugarwood 01-29-2019 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pksystems (Post 10335483)

Yes, global warming.

The Southern hemisphere is having hottest temps on record.

So, this happens

https://cbsnews2.cbsistatic.com/hub/...716/vortex.jpg

wdfifteen 01-29-2019 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 10335546)
I’m still not understanding why you don’t use the wood stove. The forced air furnace provides heat for the entire house but the stove heats only by passive convection and radiant heat.

Is the furnace thermostat too close to the stove?

It seems having an additional source of heat would be additive and be helpful in extreme cold situations by putting more heat into the house no matter where it is. I realize it would be warmer near the stove but that’s the case no matter how cold it is outside.

As I said, even with the furnace fan on circulate when the only heat source is on the upper floor the lower floor doesn’t get enough heat when it is very cold out. The fan simply can’t move enough air to even out the temperatures.
Yes, there is a temperature difference between the stove and the outside walls all the time. The colder it is outside, the greater the delta T. At about 20 degrees the delta is too great for comfort. So we shut the stove down and let the furnace heat the house.

CurtEgerer 01-29-2019 01:45 PM

Yes, everything is caused by global warming ... cold, hot, wet, dry, snow, no snow, hurricanes, no hurricanes, drought, no drought, floods, no rain. Run, we're all going to die :D

>>> do gym memberships spike during winter? you cant exercise outside right? <<<

Cross-country skiing is one of the most enjoyable outdoor activities in freezing weather. We would frequently ski in below-zero conditions with light winter clothing in complete comfort. Of course, once you stop you'd have to layer up.

gatotom 01-29-2019 01:56 PM

Yes, brutal cold but it depends on your age if its really brutal.

I spent my first 19 yrs of life in Wisconsin, the last two in Superior, Wisc. Jan was usually always 30-40 below for the month and when the temp warmed up to zero, t-shirts and shorts. The last yr there, a blizzard hit the town and the temp dropped to minus 80, now that is cold. It was so cold the windows were frozen solid and the door to the outside wouldn't open because the hinges were frozen solid.

If you had a car parked outside, every night you had to take the battery out and bring it inside for a chance the car would start in the morning. The tires would actually freeze and have a flat spot until they would get warm.

The one cool thing was you could spit outside and it would freeze before hitting the ground.

I did a lot of skiing in temps of minus 20-40. Any exposed skin like your cheeks, etc was liberally coated with vasoline, kept from frostbite which is hard on the toes until boot warmers were invented.

vash 01-29-2019 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 10335696)

>>> do gym memberships spike during winter? you cant exercise outside right? <<<

.

well, body fat can spike during the cold spell as well. i didnt want to assume anything.

everyone at home drinking hot chocolate and eating delivery Cinnabons.

wdfifteen 01-29-2019 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 10335696)
>>> do gym memberships spike during winter? you cant exercise outside right? <<<

Yep. People make resolutions to start the new year fresh, lose weight, stop smoking, etc. Buying a gym membership is a way to pretend you’re doing something to improve yourself.

70SATMan 01-29-2019 03:00 PM

I have no idea what y’all are talking about.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1548806303.jpg

Perfect demonstration of the Canadian camoflage that we put on antennas installed up here.

pksystems 01-29-2019 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by sugarwood (Post 10335635)
Yes, global warming.

The Southern hemisphere is having hottest temps on record.

So, this happens

I think it's the exact opposite. :) The extreme cold is causing your warm temps.

Anyway, until get warmer then the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum, it's all natural.

cstreit 01-29-2019 03:51 PM

It really boils down to a few things:

1. Wear an extra layer vs. "regular" cold
2. Limit skin exposure when its windy. Limit outdoor time to the necessity.
3. Make sure you are prepared, everywhere you go, to be outside for 30+ minutes in an emergency.

cabmandone 01-29-2019 04:05 PM

And for the love all all things good and sacred! When you have to pee... wait till ya get back in the house! You whip it out when it's that cold out and you might never see it again.

cabmandone 01-29-2019 04:14 PM

The real concern when it gets cold out like this is, if your fridge is in the garage you have to worry about keeping your beer warm. Wouldn't want it to freeze.

wdfifteen 01-29-2019 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 10335580)
Voila! Not fighting the cold allowed me to move better, generate more heat (it seemed like) and just not be insulted so bad by the cold. Pretty soon I’m finding myself preparing my mind and body for the cold blast just as surely as putting on a coat, etc.

Way more tolerable to this day.

+1
A lot of it is attitude. If you expect to be cold, you’ll be cold. Dress safely and go out and do what you have to do - no problem.
I’ve been in Houston in August, I’ll take an Ohio winter any day. I like visiting those places with a Mediterranean climate. Nice to visit, but I like the change of seasons we have in the Midwest.

masraum 01-29-2019 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NutmegCarrera (Post 10335374)
Great questions, Cliff.
I don’t wear suit and tie - but do wear shirt and slacks.
Either dress shoes with rubber soles or wear outdoor shoes and change in the building. Cold isn’t as bad as slushy snow (in the 20’s to 30’s).
We do tend to forego vanity a bit when it’s sub sub sub zero.
Usually walk my dog 1-2 miles in the morning. With these temps, he either gets it done in about 10 minutes and a block, or he doesn’t get it done until his next chance to go out. He has a doggie sized carhartt jacket, and we have tried little boots - but he just isn’t having any of it. His feet are what gets cold.
Clearing snow is definitely the worst. Mainly when it’s really windy.
We tend to work out inside in the winter. Spin bike, treadmill, free weights and the like.
Trip to a warm climate is best this time of year.
Oh, and did I mention that there are taverns and bars within walking distance of - everywhere?

Dogs have a special adaptation to combat getting cold due to walking on a cold surface, the arteries and veins in their legs are in close proximity so the warm blood in the arteries warms the cold blood in the veins coming back from the paws so that the blood isn't cold when it gets back to their hearts. I believe sled dogs don't wear boots unless the weather is a certain type of cold that causes really sharp ice crystals that would cut their paws.

Cold dog feet aren't as big a concern as hot dog feet.

wdfifteen 01-29-2019 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10335985)
Cold dog feet aren't as big a concern as hot dog feet.

Depends on the dog. One of mine just seizes up when her feet get cold. She would just stand in one place and shiver until she died. I have to keep an eye on her when I let her out if it’s 10 or so.

Bob Kontak 01-29-2019 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by varmint (Post 10335486)
Unless you’re working the north slope oil fields everything shuts down around -40°.

Watched Packers win the Superbowl in 96 at Prudhoe Bay on an ARCo materials audit. I was BP hanging with ARCo peeps.

Next morning getting on the bus it was -57 before wind chill. -94 wind chill. The throwing cups of water in the air was child's play. Maybe only -40 with no wind then.

I was issued arctic clothing and there is a reason for that.

Everything was set up so you walked maybe 50 yards absolute max before getting inside shelter. Man card not required for a guest.

OMG, good food, and when mess is closed you can still go there and get soft serve ice cream for that sugar coma.

No booze unless hidden during entry.

atcjorg 01-29-2019 08:01 PM

nope


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