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Paul_Heery 02-13-2019 08:05 AM

Amazon Basics Motor Oil - Let's get ready to argue
 
Amazon has branded motor oil under their Amazon Basics label. There is a lot of noise about this on the Internet. What are your thoughts?

AmazonBasics Full Synthetic Motor Oil - Euro Formula - 0W-40

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legion 02-13-2019 08:08 AM

If only we had a forum member that could definitively tell us about this product...

flipper35 02-13-2019 08:13 AM

All I know is I tried Valvoline full synthetic in the Cobra and the first time I stood on the gas after getting the oil warm the oil pressure went to 0. Can't be any worse than that.

(That is the only oil that has happened with) I now have a baffled oil pan so I could probably get away with V1 again, but why bother.

GH85Carrera 02-13-2019 08:15 AM

I KNOW the Brad Penn oil I use in my Elky and 911 work, and I buy it from a supplier on Amazon. I can't image trying to save a few bucks to have cheaper oil when oil is not expensive to start with. Even if it was a penny per gallon, it would not save me the cost of an engine rebuild.

Thanks but no thanks.

flatbutt 02-13-2019 08:40 AM

An oil thread! That dude in the first video sure does talk fast. I'm with GH, plus I usually go with the manufacturers recommendation balanced with my local busted knuckle shops opinion.

1990C4S 02-13-2019 08:40 AM

Oil is not a place to gamble. Low savings, high risk.

Saving $10 every few months on a 911? No for me. And my turbodiesel is fussy. I will stick with Mobil1 thanks.

If I had a ****ty daily driver, for sure I would use cheap oil, but I doubt I would buy synthetic.

wdfifteen 02-13-2019 09:16 AM

Interesting to read the reviews. A number of people stated that they could tell a difference in the power output of their engine after changing oils. Their seat of the pants dyno could tell the difference in power output between brands of motor oil. Really? :eek:
One guy changed the Mobil 1 full synthetic in his Mini every 3000 miles. :rolleyes:
I was afraid maybe Amazon began making motor oil because Bezos's nephew got a new chemistry set for Christmas, but it's actually made by the same company that makes WalMart's oil. So it's WalMart oil, delivered to your door. Not a bad deal if you use WalMart oil.

wdfifteen 02-13-2019 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 10353987)
If I had a ****ty daily driver, for sure I would use cheap oil, but I doubt I would buy synthetic.

I changed my lawnmower oil every 25 hrs. That's about how long it took my Ford 2N to burn a quart running the bush hog. Drained if from a $10000 mower and put it in a worn out tractor. It worked out great.

GH85Carrera 02-13-2019 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10354048)
I changed my lawnmower oil every 25 hrs. That's about how long it took my Ford 2N to burn a quart running the bush hog. Drained if from a $10000 mower and put it in a worn out tractor. It worked out great.

Wow, reusing oil is just too cheap for me. I am too lazy to clean out my oil drain pan that well. I just wipe out the excess, and hang it back on the nail I hangs from. All my engines get fresh oil.

Our former airplane mechanic used the oil from our 206's oil changes in his tractor. I can't imagine wanting to use aviation oil in a tractor, but it was his tractor.

wdfifteen 02-13-2019 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10354059)
Wow, reusing oil is just too cheap for me. I am too lazy to clean out my oil drain pan that well.

Clean out the oil pan? A few leaves of grass (and a banana peel and a handful of sawdust) wouldn't hurt that old Ford.

VincentVega 02-13-2019 09:39 AM

Well, it was a ford. :)

Tobra 02-13-2019 09:48 AM

I tend to go Rotella or Mobil 1. I don't cheap out on oil filters either. Maybe Mike will chime in on this.

flipper35 02-13-2019 10:03 AM

I use Mobil 1 in the truck. It has only 191k miles on it. The two DD get Pennzoil. The high strung small block gets the good synthetic.

pwd72s 02-13-2019 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1990C4S (Post 10353987)
Oil is not a place to gamble. Low savings, high risk.

Saving $10 every few months on a 911? No for me. And my turbodiesel is fussy. I will stick with Mobil1 thanks.

If I had a ****ty daily driver, for sure I would use cheap oil, but I doubt I would buy synthetic.

Well, according to many here, nothing but ****ty drivers in my garage. But they get Mobil one, along with the lawnmower. I've used it for many years with zero oil caused problems.

sammyg2 02-13-2019 11:54 AM

Quote:

ACEA A3/B4 and API SN approved
The difference between the most expensive synthetic motor oil and the cheapest synthetic motor oil is very, very small.
Possibly made at the same place and same process.

flipper35 02-13-2019 11:57 AM

Most likely the detergents and amounts of them?

aschen 02-13-2019 12:00 PM

I am sure this is formualted and manufactured for amazon by a well known supplier. I would think it is nearly identical to something already common. That said, it doesnt seem any cheaper than the rotella I buy at Walmart for the modern cars.

I do love me some amazon Basics though. I currently source batteries, light bulbs, and a fair bit of my wardrobe from the amazon basics collection

red-beard 02-13-2019 12:16 PM

It is made by Warren Oil. Basically, Coastal and some other brands.

http://www.warrenoil.com/

cabmandone 02-13-2019 12:19 PM

I buy whatever is cheap. I still change my oil every 3-4000 miles. I figure keeping clean oil in is better than running "good" oil for 5-7000 miles. The brand specific guys always make me smile.

red-beard 02-13-2019 12:20 PM

http://www.warrenoil.co/site/images/...d/lgbanner.png

onewhippedpuppy 02-13-2019 12:36 PM

I use the good German made Castrol 0W/40 in the Ecoboost Flex and F150, and Indemitsu rotary specific oil in the RX-8. 5k changes on the Fords and 3k on the rotary. I might be pissing away money but I always figure better safe than sorry. Plus I’m an anal retentive SOB that likes to buy the best.

sammyg2 02-13-2019 01:38 PM

What color is that oil? because that's what really matters ;)

I'm really partial to the stuff with Teflon dust in it that clogs filters.

aschen 02-13-2019 01:44 PM

My newish Focus ST is supposed to tell me when to change the oil, I ran out of patience waiting for the message and changed it at around 8000. I felt like Kramer on a test drive with an empty tank

scottmandue 02-13-2019 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sammyg2 (Post 10354267)
The difference between the most expensive synthetic motor oil and the cheapest synthetic motor oil is very, very small.
Possibly made at the same place and same process.

Thank you! I couldn't imagine how they could make 'cheap' synthetic motor oil (Mobile 1 user here).

psst... wallmart has the best price on Mobil 1 five gallon jugs...

Edit to add:
Amazon, 5-40w full syn $22,49
Wally world Mobil 1, 0-40w $26.48

rfuerst911sc 02-13-2019 02:53 PM

I wouldn't have an issue running that oil but I would do oil analysis to get scientific data vs. internet feel good data :D But if you shop when on sale or at the evil empire :eek: ( Walmart ) you can buy name brand very competitively . Example I just purchased several gallons of 5-40 synthetic Rotella for 19.99 a gallon at the evil empire . I use that in my diesel pickup and my two diesel garden tractors . It is a known good oil , readily available and priced fairly if you do some looking around .

Many folks would be quite surprised that their oil is still acceptable after 5k or 7k or even 10k miles based on oil analysis . As a society we waste a LOT of motor oil :( . End of speech smoke em if you got em :D

flipper35 02-14-2019 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10354473)
I wouldn't have an issue running that oil but I would do oil analysis to get scientific data vs. internet feel good data :D But if you shop when on sale or at the evil empire :eek: ( Walmart ) you can buy name brand very competitively . Example I just purchased several gallons of 5-40 synthetic Rotella for 19.99 a gallon at the evil empire . I use that in my diesel pickup and my two diesel garden tractors . It is a known good oil , readily available and priced fairly if you do some looking around .

Many folks would be quite surprised that their oil is still acceptable after 5k or 7k or even 10k miles based on oil analysis . As a society we waste a LOT of motor oil :( . End of speech smoke em if you got em :D

But, but, the quickie oil change places say you need to change every 3000 miles to protect your engine!

Ronbo 02-14-2019 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aschen (Post 10354389)
My newish Focus ST is supposed to tell me when to change the oil, I ran out of patience waiting for the message and changed it at around 8000. I felt like Kramer on a test drive with an empty tank



My Fiesta ST is supposed to do that also. I've had it more than 5 years and the oil change light has never come on.

1990C4S 02-14-2019 10:57 AM

Basic math.

My diesel has 600,000 km. Change oil every 10,000 km. 60 oil changes.

I might save $15 per oil change? That's $900 over 17 years. No thanks.

I have 600,000 km on the engine and it runs like new. I'm doing something right.

Cheaper fuel would interest me, cheaper oil does not.

sammyg2 02-14-2019 11:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10354473)
I wouldn't have an issue running that oil but I would do oil analysis to get scientific data vs. internet feel good data :D But if you shop when on sale or at the evil empire :eek: ( Walmart ) you can buy name brand very competitively . Example I just purchased several gallons of 5-40 synthetic Rotella for 19.99 a gallon at the evil empire . I use that in my diesel pickup and my two diesel garden tractors . It is a known good oil , readily available and priced fairly if you do some looking around .

Many folks would be quite surprised that their oil is still acceptable after 5k or 7k or even 10k miles based on oil analysis . As a society we waste a LOT of motor oil :( . End of speech smoke em if you got em :D

Then we have oil filters.
Change em at every oil change? why not. It's only money.

Most modern gasoline engines run so clean and have so little wear, their oil filters don't get clogged.
You could go many years on a filter with no problems.

red-beard 02-14-2019 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipper35 (Post 10355336)
But, but, the quickie oil change places say you need to change every 3000 miles to protect your engine!

My Honda manual was very specific. If you are doing mostly around town type trips, change every 3500 miles. If you are driving mostly highway miles, change oil every 7500 miles. Change oil filter every 15,000 miles.

Rick Lee 02-14-2019 12:25 PM

Where is Lubemaster when we need him?

It killed me to spend $46 on a 4l bottle of Motul for my bike last week, but I had to do it.


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