Cuban Secret Police in Venezuela

[gaijindabe]

Venezuela has enacted a law granting Cuban judicial and security forces police powers within Venezuela. Estimates of 27,000 Cuban police, intelligence agents, teachers, doctors & etc are helping to replicate many of the social and political structures of the Castro regime.

Who has read anything on this?

[RickM]

Nothing like the blind leading the blind......right into a fuller toilet.

[creaturecat]

Don't tell me there are people that still believe there is a communist threat from Cuba. Is it because they are "godless" or Communists? IMHO the USA should be ashamed of their treatment of Cuba.

[tabs]

Yeah....I wana start getting some of those Cuban Cigars.....

[legion]

Cuban cigars are far overated in my opinion...Dominican are far better.

[tabs]

I agree with you Legion....kinda like varieties of Apples...both are good but one might have alittle different taste...

I have been smoking Dominins...which is bundle brand of Toscana...havn't had a bad one yet and for a $1.60 for a Presidente is hard to beat...

[legion]

I've been trying to find a good, cheap cigar. I'll have to give those a try. I have a humidor full of Ashtons (wedding present from my wife) for the time being. I think Cuban cigars are good, just not worth the $20-$25 each that they go for around here. I prefer the taste of the Dominican brands over all others though.

[gaijindabe]

Originally posted by creaturecat
Don't tell me there are people that still believe there is a communist threat from Cuba. Is it because they are "godless" or Communists? IMHO the USA should be ashamed of their treatment of Cuba.

There is a threat to the democratic opposition to Chavez in Venezuela. What do you expect, its only South America... Not that the good folks in BC would ever deserve such a thing.

Ashamed? Castro should be ashamed the way he has treated his own people. IMHO.

[creaturecat]

do you actually know anything about the situation in Venezuela?
here is a starting point, please,with all due respect, take your American blinders off.
http://usa.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/12878/
I don't understand your reference regarding the "good folks" in B.C. please elaborate.

[350HP930]

Originally posted by gaijindabe
Castro should be ashamed the way he has treated his own people. IMHO.

The man is a saint compared to all the US backed dictators of the world.

I guess being a dictator is only OK when your resources and cheap labor are available for exploitation by the US.

How is china's democracy movement and human rights record in comparison?

[gaijindabe]

Sorry, the link was useless. Who writes this stuff, Al Sharpton?:
"the U.S. ALWAYS supports the greedy at the expense of the needy"

Thousands of Cuban intelligence officers and police, given full police powers, including the ability to extradite who they like back to Cuba..This in a country teetering on the edge of some sort of representative govenment.. This is not a good thing.

[creaturecat]

check out what is being said at the economic summit being held in Porto Allegre right now (meant to counter the Davos summit) - the S. Americans have had enough of the US meddling in their affairs They have not mentioned anything with regards to a commie threat - sorry the link was useless for you - check on how the needy are being treated in your own country(health care,housing,other "safety nets") versus how Haliburton is being treated (big fat contracts awarded without allowing competitive bids etc)- regards

[gaijindabe]

You are right. The poor get no heathcare, the poor are living in the streets and the old and poor are being cut off from socal security..

CC - when was the last time you were south of the border??

[creaturecat]

I know about the poor - pretty sad - will be worse with the proposed medicaid cutbacks - they need the money for the war effort(s) - 80 billion more asked for this week,correct?

don't go to the US anymore - morally opposed to the Iraq thing - miss the California wines though!

[gaijindabe]

Originally posted by gaijindabe
You are right. The poor get no heathcare, the poor are living in the streets and the old and poor are being cut off from socal security..

CC - I was kidding.

You should visit, you will have a better idea of what is really going on down here. Besides, the wine is cheaper and you can fill up your car at the border!

[creaturecat]

It may,in fact, be time to attack Venezuela:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,1280,-4767198,00.html

[fintstone]

Seems this thread/concern was prescient. It looks like new sanctions against Cuba are in the works due to their actions in Venezuela. It might well cut off even more travel (in addition to the current ban on tourist travel by U.S. citizens).

Expected new sanctions are "an application of the Helms-Burton Act, Fox News is told. That 1996 law includes a provision that, if activated, would permit Cuban Americans who are U.S. citizens to file lawsuits against both foreign corporations and individuals concerning property seized by the Cuban government, including during the 1959 Cuban Revolution led by Fidel Castro.

The Title III provisions of Helms-Burton have been waived by every administration, but the Trump administration in January opted only to suspend its terms for 45 days, rather than the normal six-month period that previous administrations have repeatedly invoked.

“This extension will permit us to conduct a careful review of the right to bring action under Title III in light of the national interests of the United States and efforts to expedite a transition to democracy in Cuba," the State Department said. "We encourage any person doing business in Cuba to reconsider whether they are trafficking in confiscated property and abetting this dictatorship.”

[sammyg2]

What say you now CC?

[fintstone]

Combined with recent threats to put Russia missiles back on Cuba, I am not surprised that the Cuban involvement in Venezuela is the catalyst for more aggressive sanctions.

[RWebb]

Originally Posted by gaijindabe

...Cuban judicial and security forces police powers within Venezuela. Estimates of 27,000 Cuban police, intelligence agents,...

road kill for the 82nd