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dmcummins 03-07-2019 03:50 AM

Signed up for Social Security
 
I’ll be turning 62 in May, so I went ahead and signed up to start taking SS then. I retired at 50, but now I’m really feeling old.

I’ve read all the advice about when to take it, but unless you know when you are going to die and what return you get on your investments, it seems like a crap shoot.

I don’t need the money to live, so I figure id rather have it now. And longevity doesn’t really run in my family.

KFC911 03-07-2019 04:00 AM

Are you gonna get doodly....serious question? Like you, I "retired" early (48) after paying the maximum into SS for years...I figure those 15 years of nada are gonna leave me with virtually nada back....no big surprise :(.

LWJ 03-07-2019 04:07 AM

Hello
Here is a real question for he above two posters.

What have you been doing for health insurance?

How bad did your early retirement crater the SS?

We all want to know!

dmcummins 03-07-2019 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10380681)
Are you gonna get doodly....serious question? Like you, I "retired" early (48) after paying the maximum into SS for years...I figure those 15 years of nada are gonna leave me with virtually nada back....no big surprise :(.

A little over 20 grand. $1750 or so a month.

Of coarse it would be more if I waited till full retirement age. I’m not even sure what that is, but I’m taking it at 62.

dmcummins 03-07-2019 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by LWJ (Post 10380686)
Hello
Here is a real question for he above two posters.

What have you been doing for health insurance?

How bad did your early retirement crater the SS?

We all want to know!

Health insurance is expensive, but I knew that before I quit. It cost me about $1,500 per month.

It cost me a few hundred a month by not working another 10 years. The early retirement was worth it.

KFC911 03-07-2019 04:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dmcummins (Post 10380688)
A little over 20 grand.

So....all those years of 0 averaged in didn't wipe it all out...hmmm. I've never counted on it....but I'll take whatever amount of MY money back I can get :).

I had BCBS at the end of my corporate gig...continued on with an individual BCBS policy....now pretty much self-insure with BCBS under O'care....high deductable (I can handle), with "some" protection against a mega-bill.

wdfifteen 03-07-2019 04:32 AM

When to take SS is a complex question. Everyone's situation is different. I come from a family that has a mixed record as far as longevity is concerned, but my parents both lived into their 80s. I found a web site that calculated your "break even" age if you start taking SS at various ages. I have to make it to 82 before my decision to wait until age 70 begins to pay off. But that does not factor in what I'm not paying in taxes now. If I was taking my SS benefit now my income taxes would be higher and my medicare payment would be higher.

But that's not the only consideration.

MrsWD is planning on waiting until "full" retirement age (66). I'm waiting until I'm 70. We don't need the money right now, much of it would be drained out in taxes because of our other income. I've planned the "retirement" of a couple of my royalty payments for my 70th birthday, so my income (and taxes + medicare) will remain about the same.

We're still not sure we've made the right decisions.

rfuerst911sc 03-07-2019 04:34 AM

I retired a little over a year ago at 59 and 11 months I am now 61 . My wife retired about 4 years ago and she decided to start drawing SS at age 62 . We both have corporate pensions and 401K. I have not made up my mind when I will start drawing SS . We have private health insurance that runs us 1K a month with a 2K deductible . Everything we have we own outright so we have no bills other than groceries , utilities and property taxes . So far so good . Our financial advisor is recommending I wait on SS until 65 .

dmcummins 03-07-2019 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10380698)
When to take SS is a complex question. Everyone's situation is different. I come from a family that has a mixed record as far as longevity is concerned, but my parents both lived into their 80s. I found a web site that calculated your "break even" age if you start taking SS at various ages. I have to make it to 82 before my decision to wait until age 70 begins to pay off. But that does not factor in what I'm not paying in taxes now. If I was taking my SS benefit now my income taxes would be higher and my medicare payment would be higher.

But that's not the only consideration.

MrsWD is planning on waiting until "full" retirement age (66). I'm waiting until I'm 70. We don't need the money right now, much of it would be drained out in taxes because of our other income. I've planned the "retirement" of a couple of my royalty payments for my 70th birthday, so my income (and taxes + medicare) will remain about the same.

We're still not sure we've made the right decisions.

I agree it’s different for everyone. My wife has a pension that pretty much means a very small SS payment for her. Even if she took half mine, so that had a effect. I also figured around early 80’s for a break even point. It all depends on what rate of return I get on the money.

There was also a consern about the future of SS. And taxes. As someone who has saved and invested over the years will I be penalized by those who did not? The current crop of politicians are sure promising a lot of free stuff and higher taxes.

The old bird in the hand is worth two in the bush .

Crowbob 03-07-2019 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10380699)
I retired a little over a year ago at 59 and 11 months I am now 61 . My wife retired about 4 years ago and she decided to start drawing SS at age 62 . We both have corporate pensions and 401K. I have not made up my mind when I will start drawing SS . We have private health insurance that runs us 1K a month with a 2K deductible . Everything we have we own outright so we have no bills other than groceries , utilities and property taxes . So far so good . Our financial advisor is recommending I wait on SS until 65 .

Did your advisor explain why you should wait?

wdfifteen 03-07-2019 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc (Post 10380699)
Our financial advisor is recommending I wait on SS until 65 .

Why 65 and not your full retirement age (67 for you)?

Bugsinrugs 03-07-2019 05:58 AM

My wife turned 65 in January and applied for SS. I am 67 and will wait until I’m 70. In the mean time I will be getting half of my wife’s SS. If some of you guys or gals don’t know about this perk ask your advisor or call SS. If you were born after 1954 it doesn’t apply.

jhynesrockmtn 03-07-2019 06:10 AM

My wife is 7 years older and turned 62 in January. She'll get her first SS check this month and is now working 2 days a week which basically pays her monthly health insurance. My financial guy keeps telling me I'm ok to retire at 60 and wait to 67 to take my SS. Part of his reasoning is if I die early, my wife will get more. I paid in the max for many of my working years.

LWJ 03-07-2019 07:48 AM

Thank you for the info above. That is super useful!

996AE 03-07-2019 07:55 AM

I too was lucky and retired at 50. Serial entrepreneur with great people made it happen for me. Lots of zeros, but never thought I'd see SS check so never planned for it in retirement.

With a few great mentors in their 80s (all have now past) they drilled into me no one ever, on their death bed lamented on the one more deal they should have made, just a little more money they could have earned. They all say I wish I had spent more time with my family.

62 early retirement 2k per mo. Health insurance 1,200 a month for me and the wifey, but a 10k ded. Healthy so havent every used it but nice to know if I need it it will be there.

Life can be short.

No regrets.

fintstone 03-07-2019 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugsinrugs (Post 10380769)
My wife turned 65 in January and applied for SS. I am 67 and will wait until I’m 70. In the mean time I will be getting half of my wife’s SS. If some of you guys or gals don’t know about this perk ask your advisor or call SS. If you were born after 1954 it doesn’t apply.

True dat:
"As a spouse, you can claim a Social Security benefit based on your own earnings record, or you can collect a spousal benefit that will provide you 50 percent of the amount of your spouse’s Social Security benefit as calculated at their full retirement age (FRA).

Check the Social Security website to determine your FRA, as it depends on your year of birth.

You are automatically entitled to receive either a benefit based on your own earnings or a spousal benefit based on your spouse's or ex-spouse's earnings. Social Security calculates and pays the higher amount.

If you were born on or before January 1, 1954, after you reach FRA, you can choose to receive only the spousal benefit by filing a restricted application. By doing this you delay receiving your own retirement benefits based on your earnings record, until a later date. For example, at age 70 you could switch from receiving a spousal benefit to receiving your own potentially higher benefit amount."

Hugh R 03-07-2019 10:07 AM

I missed the 1/1/1954 opportunity by a few weeks.

I started SS this January at 65. I get about $2,700/month and would have gotten about another $200/month if I'd waited until 66-1/2, so I'll be collecting $48,600 between now an then (66-1/2). It would take 20 years to make up the difference.

fintstone 03-07-2019 10:39 AM

Every time I decide not to retire yet, I read a thread on here where people retired much younger than me...and are glad they did. It really leaves me undecided..as it would be awfully hard to go back later and find as good a gig (due to age discrimination and losing your network). Anyone regret not working longer or regret not taking their SS earlier/later?

CurtEgerer 03-07-2019 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Hugh R (Post 10381106)
I missed the 1/1/1954 opportunity by a few weeks.

I started SS this January at 65. I get about $2,700/month and would have gotten about another $200/month if I'd waited until 66-1/2, so I'll be collecting $48,600 between now an then (66-1/2). It would take 20 years to make up the difference.

Yup. And most people never catch up since the average life expectancy for men in the US is only 78 years old. If you play the Las Vegas odds, you're leaving money on the table if you don't take it as early as possible.

Jim Richards 03-07-2019 10:43 AM

I retired a few years ago, when I was in my early 60s. I’m not planning on drawing SS until age 70. My wife is drawing her SS now. Since my wife is likely to outlive me, I want to max out my monthly SS payment so she can draw that instead of hers after I croak. She’s kind’a OK, so I’m happy to do that for her. :)

Jim Richards 03-07-2019 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by fintstone (Post 10381180)
Every time I decide not to retire yet, I read a thread on here where people retired much younger than me...and are glad they did. It really leaves me undecided..as it would be awfully hard to go back later and find as good a gig (due to age discrimination and losing your network). Anyone regret not working longer or regret not taking their SS earlier/later?

Retire fint. If you have hobbies or interests you enjoy, you’ll be surprised how full your life can be. I’m as busy as I’ve ever been, but enjoying it a lot more. Retirement is the best job ever!

Crowbob 03-07-2019 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CurtEgerer (Post 10381183)
Yup. And most people never catch up since the average life expectancy for men in the US is only 78 years old. If you play the Las Vegas odds, you're leaving money on the table if you don't take it as early as possible.

This.

If you’ve ever smoked, have a family history of Disease X, don’t run 5 miles a day, eat something other than bushes and sticks, and don’t have a dog, 78 is an excellent run.

Also, if you’re not married the checks stop when you croak and you can’t leave it to anybody.

Seahawk 03-07-2019 11:10 AM

There is sooo much info available on this...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=when+to+take+ssn&t=ffsb&atb=v72-6__&ia=web

I'm in the prime of my civilian earning potential...odd, that, but I am. Taking SS before full retirement is, since I will make much more than they allow me to before deducting and penalizing me before FRA, a poor choice.

I have never accounted for SS as a part of my retirement portfolio...if SS benefits exist i four years, I win.

rfuerst911sc 03-07-2019 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Crowbob (Post 10380721)
Did your advisor explain why you should wait?

Really based on me telling him I want to start drawing between 62 and 65 . I think my full draw is at 66.6 . But I also want to enjoy it as long as possible .

KFC911 03-07-2019 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 10381190)
Retire fint. If you have hobbies or interests you enjoy, you’ll be surprised how full your life can be. I’m as busy as I’ve ever been, but enjoying it a lot more. Retirement is the best job ever!

^^^^ Doesn't pay worth a $chit....and I don't care ....priorities.

I jumped off the proverbial cliff back in the darkest dqze of late '08 ...can't fly....but having a blast "winging it"...no regrets ;).

Busier than Kach...evidently :)

wdfifteen 03-07-2019 12:38 PM

This is a pretty cool life expectancy calculator.
Looks like I'll be here annoying you all until I'm 89!

https://www.blueprintincome.com/tools/life-expectancy-calculator-how-long-will-i-live/

sammyg2 03-07-2019 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10381348)
This is a pretty cool life expectancy calculator.
Looks like I'll be here annoying you all until I'm 89!

https://www.blueprintincome.com/tools/life-expectancy-calculator-how-long-will-i-live/

LOL it says I have 15 years left which is gravy, I remember when a doctor said I'd be in dirt by now.

rfuerst911sc 03-07-2019 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wdfifteen (Post 10381348)
This is a pretty cool life expectancy calculator.
Looks like I'll be here annoying you all until I'm 89!

https://www.blueprintincome.com/tools/life-expectancy-calculator-how-long-will-i-live/

It said I am expected to make it to 88 with a 75 percent chance to make 80 . I guess I will have to stretch my retirement to 20 - 28 years. Sounds good to me now get off my lawn !!!

Baz 03-07-2019 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dmcummins (Post 10380678)
I’ll be turning 62 in May, so I went ahead and signed up to start taking SS then. I retired at 50, but now I’m really feeling old.

I’ve read all the advice about when to take it, but unless you know when you are going to die and what return you get on your investments, it seems like a crap shoot.

I don’t need the money to live, so I figure id rather have it now. And longevity doesn’t really run in my family.

FYI: Here's a 9 page thread I started last year that has a ton of info:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/987797-when-start-drawing-social-security.html


Indeed everyone's situation is different so this is not a one size fits all deal.

All I can say is I'm very happy with my decision to start drawing last year at 64 - 2 years before full benefit.

The other piece of advice to always keep in mind is while MONEY is an important component to achieve happiness - you only have so much TIME left in your life. And the older one gets - the more TIME becomes the largest consideration of how to navigate through one's golden years.

Enjoy - you've earned this!

dmcummins 03-14-2019 12:33 PM

I checked online and I have been approved. First check will be deposited July 24.

It took less than 5 minutes online to file, easy peasy.

I never really planned on SS so this is just bonus money. My wife has a pension so because of WEP she doesn’t qualify for much, so there was no big gain for her by waiting.

ckelly78z 03-15-2019 03:34 AM

With my health issues, I will be doing well to hit 80 years old (married for 57 years at that point), I plan on taking SS early at 62 while I am still able to enjoy traveling, and being active on the farm. At 62, I will have a 28 year pension, and a decently sized 401K that should get us through.

My wife will probably live into her 90s, and live a simple life gardening, and taking care of her animals. She just got a 66% raise last year, so we will start investing much of that. We have no debt, and have lived on our 10 acre farm for 25 years now, and expecting another 25 years. I haven't really figured out when she should take SS, I will probably have to consult a FP.


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