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GH85Carrera 03-08-2019 06:33 AM

One reason I work on my own cars is to avoid the line mechanic low man on the totem pole new mechanic working on my car. Recently I had to replace the front shocks on my El Camino. The reason, the mounts on top were not tightened properly, and they moved around and destroyed the nut. One shock had to be cut off to remove it.

One task I did not want to tackle was to replace the front A-arm bushings. I took it to a local good shop. They did good on the A-arm bushings, but the shocks were not put back on to torque.

One of the spring nuts was striped, and on one side and the shock was damaged on the other. Of course I did not find that for a while, and no way would they admit it was them. It took me a while, but it is all perfect now.

porsche tech 03-08-2019 06:42 AM

42 years of working on cars for a living has taken some of the fun out of it. I still do the routine stuff on my car and my wife's car but rolling around on the garage floor is not nearly as much fun as golf. However, by doing it yourself, at least you know what you're getting.--Dave

Skytrooper 03-08-2019 06:44 AM

Jacob, that's a nice ride. I see you are running with American Endurance Racing (AER). I live not far from the Glen. It is my home track, where I earned my competition license.

Anyway, to get back on topic, I do continue to wrench on cars. I am currently resurrecting a 1971 440 Magnum Dodge Charger R/T. I am doing everything including paint myself. Once I am finished with it, then the pcar comes in for a total refresh.

flatbutt 03-08-2019 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by wayner (Post 10382020)
I'll help you put your back wheel on if you help me with mine!


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R1100 clutch? :eek:

I miss shade tree wrenching like we did back when. Points, plugs, rotor and cap, brakes and crawling around with the grease gun all with the Yankees on the radio. Now with all the e-stuff under the hood and me with only one good hand I write a lot of checks.:(

wayner 03-08-2019 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by flatbutt (Post 10382124)
R1100 clutch? :eek:

I miss shade tree wrenching like we did back when. Points, plugs, rotor and cap, brakes and crawling around with the grease gun all with the Yankees on the radio. Now with all the e-stuff under the hood and me with only one good hand I write a lot of checks.:(

I did the clutch last year at 180,000km
Now at 230,000km I've just sent the R1150GS transmission out for a rebuild.
(Aside for shooting for 500,000km, I enjoy that this bike while just on the verge of too much tech, has just enough tech but just enough simplicity so Im keeping it going)

It keeps me busy between my car build below...

RANDY P 03-08-2019 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vash (Post 10381762)
Man. I loved my last cars. Doing routine maintenance was part of the charm.

Now? Man, I just don’t think I like it as much. I had a flat tire on the back of my motorcycle. Finally got my rear stand and went to work. Hands filthy, chain grease on my chin. Knees sore.

Bleech. Putting it back together should be easy. I might need to visit YouTube to glean the sequence but in general I think I got it.

I seriously considered putting my bike on a motorcycle tow rig and farming it all out. Haha. You still like pulling out the tools?

Told myself I'm done last night- 'this is it' after I created a misfire in my CTS-V by doing a simple plug change. You know why? Plug wires fell apart during removal, common problem but I wasn't aware of it. What turned into a 1/2 day PITA is now a 1 day PITA thanks to having to do it again, and I HATE it.


1)-As I get older, I'm noticing I'm making a lot more stupid mistakes, things forgotten, etc.

2)-physical. Getting older means easier injury. I have been getting a lot more cuts. Getting sore, etc.

3)- Change in attitude (referencing modern cars). I'm starting to appreciate stock cars, not modified kids cars- I dont have all day and night to keep the damn thing running and the technology is after my time.

4)- time VS. money. I have more money than time, before it was the other way around. Pay someone, let them get cut up and if it goes wrong, it's on them.

Been telling myself this is it for awhile now- my current crop of cars, I'm done serious wrenching- just tune ups and basic maintenance only.

It's a kids game. I don't have it anymore.

rjp

Zeke 03-08-2019 07:11 AM

I "wrench" every day. Not necessarily under a car but I will do that too before taking one to Jiffy Lube. I spend all day in the shop. Half of what I do is get machines ready for a job or picking up. The other half is doing the job. I fix things—everything—but what puts money in my wallet is repairing antiques and welding small jobs. I do light machining too.

I even sharpen my lawn mower. I figure if someone else can do something then I can do it too. There are exceptions, of course. But I hate paying someone knowing that I'm not going to get the job I would do. And that's about every time anymore.

vash 03-08-2019 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10382095)
Yep, I like it done right.

!

this is part of my problem. i'll brood over the problem. it's actually gotten worse as i age. for example. i cannot wait to get my tire back to put it back together..then i'll probably worry i got it right.

and i forgot to pull my sprocket off and yank the cush-drive thing..it is at the shop. hope they dont lose it. :)

see?

but as mentioned above..once i start the project it is way better..the overthinking it to the start..not so much.

then my hands hurt for a week. my middle finger usually locks into a partially opened position for a few days. warm water massages gets it moving again.

wayner 03-08-2019 07:29 AM

Warm water massage. Is that what they cal those things :D

ted 03-08-2019 07:31 AM

I like to drive old race cars for 2 or 3 hours and between races in the garage nut and bolt them for the next event.
Replacing a gear in the Laguna Seca Pits a year ago.
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vash 03-08-2019 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by wayner (Post 10382186)
Warm water massage. Is that what they cal those things :D

hahaha..not even SOMETIMES. but i'll ask.

vash 03-08-2019 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by wayner (Post 10382020)
I'll help you put your back wheel on if you help me with mine!


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i would lose sleep over a project like that!! hahah awesome!!

i would definately have a grease board with a list of things i took off (in sequential order) and a camera full of "before Cliff" pics.

vash 03-08-2019 07:53 AM

this is more my speed.

hehe. (aww..cute!)

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wayner 03-08-2019 08:15 AM

So many people can't imagine a task like that.
Its a great accomplishment!

I think the main thing is that if the job has to be done to get to the office, or if it has to be squeezed into to tight a time space working around life, its not very enjoyable. If on the other hand, it is a Saturday morning, coffee and music thing, or a weeknight beer and blasting the tunes thing, then it becomes an interesting accomplishment compared to a day at the office where lots of things happen, meetings, phonecalls, emails but nothing tangible ever seems to get done.

Nice short term goals like getting a wheel off then back into the house
Wheel to the shop
wheel back on

or whatever size task is right for your time in life
the sense of accomplishment is what makes it worth it.

I used to drive myself nuts by setting my sights on a big accomplishment in one sitting.
Now depending on time, I may just plan to figure something out one night, and do that small task the next night if thats all that fits.

Other times I'll dive in and a week will disappear as I enjoy every minute of it

But regardless, I refuse to work on my daily driver.

wayner 03-08-2019 08:18 AM

P.S.

I love Ted's post. It conjures up all sorts of optimistic thoughts in my mind...but then I realize the commitment that would take and I come back down to earth.

fastfredracing 03-08-2019 08:23 AM

As mentioned, doing it daily against the clock with customers tapping their feet, trying to make $ on it gets old sometimes. Most days, I still enjoy the battle .
Spending a Saturday evening on a cold winters night in the garage with the tunes blasting, wrenching away on one of my own projects with no $ limit to adhere to, or time frame for completion is complete nirvana for me .
I still really enjoy my own personal shop time.

GH85Carrera 03-08-2019 08:35 AM

I positively can not imagine wrenching for a living. I am slow slow slow, and do my tasks over days that should take hours. I always find "while I am in there" tasks. I have owned my El Camino since 1991, and the 911 since 1995. I really can't blame the previous owners for much anymore. I doubt any engineers at Chevy figured any fool would ever put 365,000 miles on a El Camino. I plan to drive it until I can't drive it anymore due to some reason I can't foresee as yet. Parts are cheap, and overall the systems are simple enough to repair.

flatbutt 03-08-2019 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wayner (Post 10382265)
So many people can't imagine a task like that.
Its a great accomplishment!

I think the main thing is that if the job has to be done to get to the office, or if it has to be squeezed into to tight a time space working around life, its not very enjoyable. If on the other hand, it is a Saturday morning, coffee and music thing, or a weeknight beer and blasting the tunes thing, then it becomes an interesting accomplishment compared to a day at the office where lots of things happen, meetings, phonecalls, emails but nothing tangible ever seems to get done.

Nice short term goals like getting a wheel off then back into the house
Wheel to the shop
wheel back on

or whatever size task is right for your time in life
the sense of accomplishment is what makes it worth it.

I used to drive myself nuts by setting my sights on a big accomplishment in one sitting.
Now depending on time, I may just plan to figure something out one night, and do that small task the next night if thats all that fits.

Other times I'll dive in and a week will disappear as I enjoy every minute of it

But regardless, I refuse to work on my daily driver.


Some highlights of that process for the curious :

Getting her undressed


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So we could get to this:

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And replace this"


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With the priceless skill and aid of this guy


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In case you were , ya know, curious

RANDY P 03-08-2019 08:40 AM

Last week I installed a distributor gear upside down on my truck. Couldn't figure out why it wouldn't drop in, spent hours on that one, not counting the days figuring out a mysterious stall out condition at idle.

Stupid mistakes.

rjp

Seahawk 03-08-2019 08:58 AM

I own a business so I do not do any routine maintenance on any of my cars...we have four Toyota's and the local shop, with one exception (which was fixed), is terrific. I show up at 0730, log on, get to work and am out of there by 0900.

I am debating what to do with the '82 Targa for the same reason. Time is precious.

I do still work on the farm equipment, routine or otherwise.

A man has got to know his limitations.


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