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unclebilly 04-21-2019 08:16 AM

We need more F’ing Passwords
 
I don’t know about you guys but I lose mind with all of the passwords that are needed for everything today.

And the different requirements in terms of special characters, capital letters, numbers, length of password etc.

All it does for me is increase my blood pressure and cause Tourette’s...

How do you handle this situation?

id10t 04-21-2019 08:29 AM

3 levels of protection -

forums and garbage things where I don't really care about security much

important personal things like investment accounts, banks, etc.

Work accounts, sysadmin passwords, etc.

2 "base" passwords for each, and then something site specific added to it in different spots - front middle or end

Or admit that your wetware won't keep up and use a password manager, and then you can get passwords like F7SW$ZA(%JuJPiAsMwI4Jam7sm=%55

kach22i 04-21-2019 08:33 AM

I have three cheap notepads, the kind that open all the way up and fold back.

1. Computer stuff, passwords and when I did updates or added programs.

2. Telephone log, documenting discussions.

3. Code research log, makes for doing the next search quicker.

Do NOT get the type with perforated pages so you can pull sheets out, over time all the sheets want to fall out on their own.

I have a 4th really small notepad I keep in my man purse, a travel kit that holds my large shielded passport wallet, large cell phone, loose change, cigar cutter and lighter, utility knife and so forth.

This mini note pad (plus pen) is getting used more and more to write stuff down, not just for myself but for others also transitioning to an all electronic world. Transferring from mini note pad to medium sized notepad is easy, tape or staples. In some cases, photocopy and paste in.

I could write most of this stuff down using the stylus wand pen on my Samsung Galley Note, but the time it takes and ability to share is extremely awkward compared to the old methods. Plus when the phone bites the dust, the notepad will still be around. Some of my notepads are 20 years old now (I don't have kids). ;)

Aurel 04-21-2019 09:18 AM

I like iOS fingerprint password managers, makes life easier.
But I hate double identification system because iOS cannot help with that,
Every time I log in a new password is generated...and I have to enter the code I get
From the cell phone. This also screws up aggregation software login for financial accounts...

RANDY P 04-21-2019 09:24 AM

it is goddamn bs, considering that the storage itself (the company server) is the one that's hacked.

With that said, I use Norton password manager-it's free and once you learn to use it it's not too bad.

stomachmonkey 04-21-2019 09:53 AM

Pasawor manager coupled with Two Factor pretty much eliminates the need to remember.

Erakad 04-21-2019 09:56 AM

I use Lastpass....no need to remember, keeps track of them all, automatically adds new ones.

fastfredracing 04-21-2019 02:53 PM

And we should be required to change them much more frequently .

NutmegCarrera 04-21-2019 05:58 PM

I spent a couple hours helping mother in law yesterday.
Got an iPhone - finally.
Guess what??? New email account to go with it. Couldn’t get the previous one to work.
Did you guys know that there is a difference between the character “&” and the character “+”?
It appears that when you interchange them - ***** don’t work.
Who’d think such a thing.

Guess what else?
Changing the Apple ID (also your gmail account in this case) is the seventh circle of hell.
Especially when you need to do it on another device (that has not been updated since, oh - about 2012).

Ok. Rant over. I feel a little better now.
Thanks ladies and gentlemen.

Arizona_928 04-21-2019 07:20 PM

just use the same password for everything....

fanaudical 04-21-2019 08:05 PM

I ran across an article some time ago (wish I remember where) that stated it was better to choose three random words and add a couple special characters. Apparently the added length of a real phrase makes it harder to crack and easier to remember.

Example:

Chariotwidgetevergreen1!

Satisfies all the requirements and makes it easy to remember, I guess.

cstreit 04-21-2019 08:37 PM

Interestingly password security requirements that are really hard for us to remember are easier for machines to guess. ...and those,easy for us to remember are harder for machines to guess.

Hawkeye's-911T 04-22-2019 12:08 PM

I find using the first letter of each word of a "literary" quote - the content of which may contain something
which alludes to the site name, add a couple of numerals, to be easiest for recalling passwords.
Certainly not 'break proof' to a determined hacker. Works for me......so far!

Cheers
JB

Clint Lando 04-22-2019 03:02 PM

I have atm 4 numbers to money

stealthn 04-22-2019 03:09 PM

Several options, Keypass generates and stores passwords. If you use Azure and 365 there are a few options there too.
Lots of pay for security options as well.

RANDY P 04-22-2019 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NutmegCarrera (Post 10434724)
Guess what else?
Changing the Apple ID (also your gmail account in this case) is the seventh circle of hell.
Especially when you need to do it on another device (that has not been updated since, oh - about 2012).

Ok. Rant over. I feel a little better now.
Thanks ladies and gentlemen.


I hate iCloud security. I truly do.

rjp

sammyg2 04-22-2019 03:34 PM

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Sebscst 04-22-2019 03:47 PM

I use a 7 digit number for everything I have. If it needs more security than that, then I don’t need it.

wdfifteen 04-22-2019 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastfredracing (Post 10434526)
And we should be required to change them much more frequently .

You should have put that in green.
You may get death threats.

wdfifteen 04-22-2019 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by id10t (Post 10434265)
3 levels of protection -

forums and garbage things where I don't really care about security much

important personal things like investment accounts, banks, etc.

Work accounts, sysadmin passwords, etc.
5

Sorta the same here. I have an email address that I use for on-line purchases. All the accounts have the same password.
I have an email address for all my financial accounts and they all have unique passwords that get changed periodically.
I have an email address for friends and family. Only one password for the account.


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