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Speeder, I didn't realize that Porsche theft was such a problem in L.A. -- that's amazing. One more reason I keep shuffling more toward the countryside and away from the metropolis where I once made a living. Daniel, indeed they do! I think they look better from the outside with the top off, also! |
I was searching my old posts/threads looking for my 911SC engine rebuild thread and came across this:
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/65288-if-doesnt-set-bar-early-s-prices.html Fk me running. The quality of cars that used to be around before the whole bubble/export thing happened. :eek: Read the first and last post on that page. |
I've got one in my garage and I'm keeping it. I don't care if it's worth $10k or $100k, this is my toy and its value to me is not $$$.
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Nice garage.
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thats a beauty tidy. yes keep it. i will be buried in mine! plus none of my offspring drive stick... just a tragedy
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I use to buy, drive, sell 911's with out ever worrying about getting another one. Not now. |
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That was a beautiful car. My condolences.
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I think you don't see them because the owners have newer cars to drive and they like the lazy comfort.
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One thing I forgot to mention before is that the old guys I see driving air-cooled Porsches are mostly long time owners who love the car and don't need the relatively small amount of $$ they would get from selling them. They don't follow the market, could care less and will never sell. |
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They are safe in their garages obviously. Sometimes its just a PITA to hop in a 20-50 year old car to just trudge around. The mindset is that its use needs to be dedicated.. a show, C&C, a long trip, concours, track day etc. The older the car, the more concern about a breakdown and knowing that no one will likely be able to help in that case. Risk vs reward. That said, I try to make it a habit to take my boys to practice in it when the weather cooperates (but the older I get, the more I like heat and working ac) so comfort is also the issue.
Those who bought these cars on the cheap are the most likely to keep using them. Those who bought on the rise, see it as a possible investment when they sell.. those who bought high and perhaps even financed it, are even more worried about using it. How many 1970s and 1980s Ferraris do you see these days? Heck how many of most cars from the 70s-80s do you see in general? |
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I see lots of water pumpers around here but very seldom do I see any air cools. Anytime i drive it to the local grocery store, big box hardware or even the Mart, it never fails to attract some nice comments. |
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If I wanted a 74-89 driver, I know I'd have no problem finding one within 2 weeks. |
Examples from just the first page
$40K 88 Carrera http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/1022781-1988-targa-guards-red.html $35K 86 Carrera coupe http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/1029493-1986-carrera-iris-blue-metallic-sunroof-coupe.html $42K 74 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/1029521-fs-1974-porsche-911s-targa.html $35K 77 http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/1029322-fs-1977-911s-no-sunroof-sc-upgrades.html $35K 85 Carrera http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-cars-sale/1029317-1985-porsche-911-cabriolet.html The market actually at this time seems fairly flooded with driver quality 74-89 911s. Remember, the ones above are literally from just the first page of PPs classifieds. That's just the ads posted or refreshed in the last few days. There's similar amounts on pages 2, 3 etc. Also, prices seem lower than they have been in at least 3 years, and continuing to head downward. |
Perhaps it's an age thing
At age 75, there's really no car, new or old, that puts me in a "gotta have it" mode. Heck, not even a "I want it" mode. I look at it all, not just cars, as just more stuff I'd have to take care of.
However, I do know where a certain '72 911S went, and I'm more than okay with it being there. |
Also there was a time when my wife would ride in it with me, now she says it's too noisy and stinky. Hell, she won't even follow me in another car.
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My wife would be thrilled if I sold my 85 911 and bought a new Cayman S. Ain't gonna happen until I can sell my 911 for the full price of a Cayman S or maybe the GT4. Not very likely to happen.
After 24 years of ownership, it doubt there is a system or component that I have not touched and either improved or kept in perfect working order. The AC kicks ass, and the drivetrain is all ready for my trip to Key West this summer. I will put 5,000 miles on it most likely for that trip. I have been in well over 100 autocrosses in it, and run Laguna Seca and Roebling Road and three other tracks going as fast as possible. In the 24 years I have put only 120,000 miles on it, and it is insured as a fun car and not a daily driver. I have agreed value insurance, and know just what I will get if it is stolen or totaled. That insurance is just about 60 cents per day. It is worth over twice what I paid for it, and it has provided me millions of smiles. |
GH, is your A/C modified or stock?
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One concern I have and it’s probably why I don’t see a lot of vintage sports cars anymore is the lack of shops that can work on them.
We have 1 shop. They are amazing but if they were to close up, I would be screwed if I needed major engine work. I see almost no vintage Ferrari’s. We used to have a very good Ferrari mechanic in town. He must have closed up at least 25 years ago Hell even if I wanted a new Ducati or new Ferrari, i would have to drive hours to get a valve adjustment. Theres no dealers in my town and I don’t live in the middle of nowhere. Can’t imagine If I did. Work often takes me to beautiful rural villages and farming communities around New York State and i often ask myself could I manage maintaining my 911 if I lived out here when the only shop in town is billy bobs muffler and lawnmower repair I occasionally go to car shows and I’ll see a lot of MG’s, triumphs maybe 1 e type a 308 parked next an f430 and a crap load of old corvettes and a VW fastback and a long row of miatas This ain’t Southern California |
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