RGruppe comes out a couple times a year but there is a nice bunch that is here year round that meets every Sunday morning for a run up Hwy 74.

I'm down to 3 911s now , but have been playing with them for a while. No plans to let these go.
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I was in Munich this week and I saw one 964 and one 993. Now with that being said I was here for work and did not really get to explore a ton. Spent the majority of the time in Tengersee where I did see a really cool painting of a long hood in one of the art galleries.

You show a handful that represent the new normal, that's fair. But overall compared to even 2 years ago the total volume for sale is way down. BaT may have some recent reasonable sales, but they have also had a lot of YGBSM sales over the last few years. I'm also talking about normal sites like Craigslist, which used to be full of old Porsches. Now they are the exception, not the rule. Maybe everyone is just putting them on BaT so it's one week and done.

As noted by others on this thread, they are also scarce on the road.

You're right about the present dearth of Porsche offerings on Craiglist and other classified ad sheets. Heck, I used to see Porsches listed, occasionally, in the 'Uncle Henry's' classifieds' up in Maine!

For those interested, 'Uncle Henry's' classifieds came before 'Craig's' but a little after 'Ben Franklin's'... ;-)

You also used to be able to find '69 Chevelle SS 396s and clean early 911S coupes in the Recycler every week in LA, (pre-internet). Times change. Objects get old and years pass between now and the last time they were stamped-out.

The current pricing of impact bumper 911s is actually pretty logical. Nice ones have value. Coupes have value. A nice '72 911S coupe sold yesterday on BAT for around $130k+fees, which was very reasonable compared to a couple years ago. It was not top-flight original paint incredible but it was plenty nice and not a rusted POS.

Anyone can buy any old 911 on a public site today, you just need to open your checkbook. You cannot say that about other more rare and collectible cars. :cool:

OTOH it just makes you more unique to be driving around in an old Porsche.

I am sorry to hear that.

I got so many Rochester/Buffalo stories it ain't funny. SOHIO/BP was in Niagra Falls with Carborundum. Phaudler was in Rochester. I was a traveling internal auditor with the SOHIO Chemicals and Industrial Products Division.

2nd best story is a lady at Pfaudler was padding payroll for her boyfriend. A big 50 cents an hour padding. They said I caught it which I didn't but I was down with them blaming me, for their ease. Fired her and her boyfriend. My car's windows were busted out at the hotel next morning. Avis brought me a Cadillac and the poor grunt had to drive the Pontiac back to the Avis home base in January.

Haha my thoughts exactly. Didn’t want to offend you but it was the worst damn place I’ve ever lived. Couldn’t wait to get out. I liked Cleveland, even then. It’s much nicer now though. And the park lands around Akron we’re pretty nice but nothing like New York’s finger lakes region. Made me appreciate this dump of a place

This topic brings back the regret I felt when I traded in my 82 911SC. How I wish I had the car today.

My plate has been: '88 IXXI ....for a long time.

Mebbe I'll change it to: NO Regerts!

....and move to Montana :)

I just opened up my hard copy of Panorama mag and flipped to the back.
The classifieds are loaded with 78-89 911s for under $50k.
The number available surprised even me, so many.
The reasonable prices even more so.
Even 20 years ago, Pano was a place where owners tended to be on the “optimistic” side, price wise. But today they seem priced realistically.

I agree. There is a glut of cars on the market that is pulling prices down. I'm all in favor if that. I prefer that investors go somewhere else.

I figure I have something really special....

A Steve Wong chip and a 911 that hasn't grenaded...is Loren still beating that drum....or has the bass solo begun :)

I drive both of mine often in the summertime...weather permitting.
15 and 20 years of ownership...they both run great.

Well said!

Our '88 travels regularly, all over the country. We rarely see other 911s, except when on the california coast.

We did the PCA thing 35+ years ago, and it was fun. But current car culture is just for fancy pants with pecans, chili peppers, and ceramic brakes that will never get hot enough to work right.

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Oh, and the 356's get used too! Road trip to Arizona (the high part!) last month with friends.

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You forget Boxster
Boxster leasers.

The other factor is the long time air-cooled guys are getting really, really old these days. I'm 60 and feel like a kid at some of those gatherings, where the really great early 911S and 356s are. The literature and memorabilia show looked like a nursing home. It made me kind of sad. :(

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I agree....Denis IS old :)

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was out for a drive yesterday and ran into a 928s and its owner in the grocery store parking lot. that doesnt happen often...not a 911 but an old porsche in good working order...the owner said he was the chairman of the local PCA. maybe it was a sign.......

I hope he's Ok, and the damage wasn too bad:D

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Ha very good!

10 yrs ago my local craigslist had 3-4 decent air-cooled's listed at any given moment. Took it for granted, like everyone else. Beautiful mid-mileage SC's and Carreras with tails, sport seats and rare colors for 12k-15k all day long. I remember looking at a 82 Targa in 2011 that needed a top end w/ had higher mileage, but clean otherwise, that the seller couldn't give away, think the price was finally slashed to 7 or 8k before it sold after months on the market.

Then around late 2012/2013 the frenzy hit. I was scouring nationwide craigslist calling on any reasonable SC or Carrera. All sold within the hour or had people stacked to see it. People were just going nuclear trying to get their hands on them.

Now, we might get a couple per year, but they are usually nothing you'd want to own and/or not priced realistically. Haven't seen an honest 911SC being sold by some friendly long term owner for a fair price in...??

Were a weekly sight on the roads as well but are no more. Literally, over the period of a couple years they vanished. It's been the same dozen cars at cars & coffee but nothing new. My Indy sells cars on the side and was sending just about every 911, 914, 928 over to Europe during the storm.

Maybe its my old eyes, but do I see 7" front and 6" rear wheels? Ugh...

Same here. Got mine in 07 for 13k from Craigslist. Car was 5 miles from me. Had no PPI, cracked tires and stalled 5 times driving home but after refreshing a few things and driving it, car drives perfectly and I wouldn’t part with it for any money unless I could get a nice long hood....in my records is the add from Sloan where PO got it in 2000 and it was listed for 20k then.....so PO presumably lost 7k and few parts he installed like a new antenna

In 12 years I’ve probably put less than 5k into it making it better. These are amazing cars

Not in that crowd. When I want to feel young, I go to a Porsche event. :)

One of the great things about PCA Porsche Parade is the wide range of cars and people. For sure more than a few grey hairs, but lots of younger folks, with the kids. So many kids they have entire events designed to keep the kids occupied while the parents are off playing in the Porsche. Many kids have been going to Parade all their life.

I think it's the lighting on the spokes/paddles. They look the same to me.

Not too many 911's out around here either these days. It's gotten to the point where one really notices if one is sighted.

I think I see 7” 951 Fuchs on the rear. 7” 911 Fuchs up front.

I thought about the 951 7s on the rear.. but then i thought, nah.. they "rotated" the tires at the local tire shop when the new "roadhandlers" were installed and no one noticed.

Having run both 911 and 951 fuchs I know what you mean... but imho, you want the "deeper dish" wheel on the rear for aesthetics at minimum.

Anyway, at least it was out being used!

Saw a 1993 928 GTS 5 speed about a week ago.

There are currently 4 or 5 pre 1990's 911's for sale in the local Craigslist. Except for in the winter, seems I see about one new pre 1990's for sale per month on local CL. This is in Minnesota.

Plus, there are some CHEAP newer 911's (yr 2000 +/-).

I have an '82 Targa sitting in one of my barns, on a trailer no less - no foreshadowing, I promise.

911's have driven me nuts since the first time a drove in one; a mixture of competence, visuals and sound...all these years later the sound remains the same.

My son wants to get it back to road with some purpose when he finishes law school. Until then, I'll checkbook the brakes and fuel lines and drive it.

I need the trailer.

Agree....you're right.

If I bought an SC or Carrera for say $10k, (and that was a financial stretch) and the price suddenly quadruples, I would probably be afraid to drive it too. Suddenly you have something that you probably couldn't afford in current markets and can't replace if you crack it up. It really sucks the fun out of something when your afraid to use it. Also, For some this bubble put a lot of people in the situation of having a >$40k car that there was zero chance their significant other would have agreed to if it cost that much when they bought. Suddenly you have something expensive and you don't want to risk losing it. You crash it and your likely ending up in the 996/Boxster world (Proud 2000 Boxster S owner) which makes you just like anyone else.

I did a road trip recently with my buddy that has a 79 Trans Am. He loves that car. Everywhere we went he worried about parking to the point that we couldn't stop in certain places because he was afraid it would get scratched. I totally get it but it does really take away from enjoying the car if your worried about devaluing it.

Whatever floats your boat I guess.

I sold my Ferrari a couple of years ago, for that very reason. As the value goes up, the fun factor goes down.

I would rather drive a $50k car I paid $15k for than a $50k car I paid $50k for

If the car’s value went so high as to be unaffordable to insure, like a 60s Ferrari, then that would be an issue for me