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Cast iron BBQ grates - how do you oil them

I have a gas grill and a charcoal grill that have cast iron grates . Apparently I don't know how to season them and then keep them oiled. So what are your routines to keep them clean and rust free ?

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I treat them the same way I treat cast iron pans. Clean after cooking, oil then turn the burners on high for a few minutes. Works fine and it keeps the roaches and ants out of the grill.
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If there's any chance of grates on a grill keeping their season it's important that the right oil is used, so you need a high smoke point oil that's a hardening oil. The most often recommended is flax seed oil which is the food-grade equivalent of linseed oil. As long as you don't then overheat the grates, you should be good.

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I never seasoned my old grates. Being on a grill, they got so hot at the warmup, any season would be toast anyways.

I heat up the grill, hit it with one of those steel wad things. ( I used to push one into the bristles of my grill brush), then wipe the grill down with a wad of paper towel with oil drizzled on. If I have a shredded kitchen towel about to get tossed, I use that as the final farewell. Drizzle the oil on the towel. Scrub grates using tongs to hold the oiled wad. It’s like quick season

Boom. Food rarely sticks. Well it sticks initially, but releases when the crust forms.

I don’t think you can treat it like cast iron pan.

I do this with any grates. I do give it a quick scrub when I’m done, but the real clean is right before I cook.
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I never seasoned my old grates. Being on a grill, they got so hot at the warmup, any season would be toast anyways.

I heat up the grill, hit it with one of those steel wad things. ( I used to push one into the bristles of my grill brush), then wipe the grill down with a wad of paper towel with oil drizzled on. If I have a shredded kitchen towel about to get tossed, I use that as the final farewell. Drizzle the oil on the towel. Scrub grates using tongs to hold the oiled wad. It’s like quick season

Boom. Food rarely sticks. Well it sticks initially, but releases when the crust forms.

I don’t think you can treat it like cast iron pan.

I do this with any grates. I do give it a quick scrub when I’m done, but the real clean is right before I cook.
That was pretty close to how I used to treat mine, and they were enameled cast iron. Pre-heat the grill, scrape the grates, paper towel for a quick coating of oil, then cook.
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use an uncooked potato sliced in half,
rub that on the grates to clean it.
done.

oh yeah, and now yer grill is non stick
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I treat my cast iron grill grates with new stainless steel grill grates. Works like a charm.
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I never seasoned my old grates. Being on a grill, they got so hot at the warmup, any season would be toast anyways.
How hot does your grill get? I use propane, not charcoal, so my grates never get hot enough to burn the seasoning off. I mean, the flame on my kitchen stove is directly on the bottom seasoning of my cast iron pans which never burns off whereas the grill flame is a good 6" away, with a flame tamer to boot, so if anything, the grill grates are cooler than a pan on the stovetop. Granted I've never measured the temps so maybe I'm wrong but I never have sticking issues on my grill and the grates hold a seasoning better than my carbon steel wok.
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I'm dedicated charcoal ( hardwood) guy. I get that thing 550+ degrees, hit the grates with spray olive oil, flames go big time then throw my meat on it. Good to go
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a cranky old mechanic who used to rave & rant all the time told me to use peanut oil - rub it in real good (on the exhaust pipes, not to mention the BBQ grill)

the idea is that some oils will polymerize with the heat & others don't

I just rubbed some avocado oil on my grill (out of Pnut oil) so we'll see - I scrape it & brush it before the oil on a paper towel is added

I am very religious about this procedure, except when I'm not
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I just learned to use lard all over them then heat it up to burn it on. You have to do it every 4-5 cooks. I am getting tired or replacing mine so going to give the lard a shot
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Yesterday on the gas grill I got the two grates cleaned up and oiled , did some grilling all is well . However on the charcoal grill I have a decent amount of rust on the grate . I have scraped it top and bottom but rust is still there . Do I just go ahead and soak/spray it with oil ? Or slather on some lard ? I'm 61 years old been grilling all my life I can't believe I'm even asking the question Or as usual I'm over over thinking it
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Weber's cast iron grates are baked enamel so not very sticky in the first place. Self oiling I guess, I just don't overly clean them.
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I have a decent amount of rust on the grate . I have scraped it top and bottom but rust is still there
Hmm, If they are super rusty, I wouldn't want the rust in my food, so I'd be trying to season them (with Flax oil).

http://sherylcanter.com/wordpress/2010/01/a-science-based-technique-for-seasoning-cast-iron/
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It does matter what oil you use, and the oil that gives the best results is not in this list. So what is it?

The food-grade equivalent is called flaxseed oil. This oil is ideal for seasoning cast iron for the same reason it’s an ideal base for oil paint and wood finishes. It’s a “drying oil”, which means it can transform into a hard, tough film. This doesn’t happen through “drying” in the sense of losing moisture through evaporation. The term is actually a misnomer. The transformation is through a chemical process called “polymerization”.

The seasoning on cast iron is formed by fat polymerization, fat polymerization is maximized with a drying oil, and flaxseed oil is the only drying oil that’s edible. From that I deduced that flaxseed oil would be the ideal oil for seasoning cast iron.


As a reality check of this theory, I googled “season cast iron with flaxseed oil” to see what came up. The very first hit is a page written by a guy who seasons his cast iron cookware with linseed oil from the hardware store because it gives the hardest surface of anything he’s tried. (I’m not sure how safe that is; I don’t recommend it.) Below that were several sites selling traditional cast iron cookware from China, which they advertise as being “preseasoned with high quality flax oil”. I don’t know whether they really use food-grade flaxseed oil (which is expensive) or linseed oil from a hardware store. What’s significant is the claim. Seasoning with high quality flaxseed oil is something to brag about.

With this encouragement, I stripped one of my skillets and reseasoned it with flaxseed oil. As you can see in the picture above, the result was a dramatic improvement. The finish is smooth, hard, and evenly colored.
Seasoning Is Not Cooking: Different Principles Apply

The first time I seasoned a pan I chose avocado oil because it’s monounsaturated and doesn’t easily go rancid. It also has the highest smoke point of any edible oil, 520°F, so I could heat it in a 450°F oven without passing the smoke point. I knew that when cooking, you should never heat an oil past its smoke point because that causes the release of “free radicals”, which are carcinogenic. I was careful not to choose a polyunsaturated oil – and especially not an oil high in omega-3 fatty acids – because these are especially vulnerable to breakdown with heat and the release of free radicals.

Ironically, it’s for exactly these reasons that the best oil for seasoning cast iron is an oil high in omega-3 fatty acids – in particular, alpha-linolenic acid (ALA). Free radicals are actually what enable the polymerization. Drying oils, which produce the hardest polymers, are characterized by high levels of polyunsaturated fatty acids, especially the omega-3 fatty acid ALA.

The lard that was traditionally used for seasoning 100 years ago was much higher in ALA than fat from pigs today, because back then pigs ate their natural diet. Today they are raised on industrial feedlots and forced to eat grain, making their fat low in omega-3s.

Since lard is traditional but no longer readily available, many people substitute bacon drippings, but this is a bad idea. If it’s conventional bacon, you’re baking in carcinogenic nitrates. But even organic bacon is not good for an initial seasoning because it’s filled with salt.

The reason that Pam seems to work well in seasoning is that its main ingredient is canola oil, which is relatively high in ALA (10%), making it a “semi-drying oil”. Flaxseed oil, a drying oil, is 57% ALA. But it’s not a good idea to use a spray oil, no matter what oil it’s made with, because of its additives. You’re doing chemistry here. If you want good results, use pure ingredients.

Fat polymerization can be triggered or accelerated in a variety of ways. As best I can tell from my reading, the cast iron seasoning process is an example of “radical polymerization”. The process is initiated when something causes the release of free radicals in the oil. The free radicals then “crosslink” to form the tough, hard film you see in a well-seasoned pan.

So what is the “something” that initiates the release of free radicals in fat? Iron, for one thing. High heat, light, and oxygen, for some others. To prevent cooking oils from going rancid – i.e., breaking down and releasing free radicals – you need to store them in dark, tightly sealed containers in a cool location. To initiate or accelerate the release of free radicals, put the oil in contact with bare iron and heat it above its smoke point, which will cause even non-drying oils to release free radicals.

I haven’t defined “free radical” or “crosslink” because that gets into details of chemistry that you don’t need to understand to season a cast iron pan. All you need to know is that the molecular structure of the oil changes and becomes something else, something tough and solid. The process is initiated with the release of free radicals, which then become crosslinked, creating a hard surface.

Free radicals are carcinogenic inside your body, and also a cause of aging. So don’t ever heat oil you’re going to eat above its smoke point. If the oil starts to smoke, toss it out and start again. When you’re seasoning a pan, you’re not cooking food. By the time the seasoned pan comes out of the oven, there are no more free radicals.
The Recipe for Perfect Cast Iron Seasoning

The basic idea is this: Smear a food-grade drying oil onto a cast iron pan, and then bake it above the oil’s smoke point. This will initiate the release of free radicals and polymerization. The more drying the oil, the harder the polymer. So start with the right oil.

Go to your local health food store or organic grocery and buy a bottle of flaxseed oil. It’s sold as an omega-3 supplement and it’s in the refrigeration section because it goes rancid so easily. Check the expiration date to make sure it’s not already rancid. Buy an organic flaxseed oil. You don’t want to burn toxic chemicals into your cookware to leach out forever more. It’s a fairly expensive oil. I paid $17 for a 17 ounce bottle of cold-pressed, unrefined, organic flaxseed oil. As it says on the bottle, shake it before you use it.

Strip your pan down to the iron using the techniques I describe in my popover post. Heat the pan in a 200°F oven to be sure it’s bone dry and to open the pores of the iron a little. Then put it on a paper towel, pour a little flaxseed oil on it (don’t forget to shake the bottle), and rub the oil all over the pan with your hands, making sure to get into every nook and cranny. Your hands and the pan will be nice and oily.

Now rub it all off. Yup – all. All. Rub it off with paper towels or a cotton cloth until it looks like there is nothing left on the surface. There actually is oil left on the surface, it’s just very thin. The pan should look dry, not glistening with oil. Put the pan upside down in a cold oven. Most instructions say to put aluminum foil under it to catch any drips, but if your oil coating is as thin as it should be, there won’t be any drips.

Turn the oven to a baking temperature of 500°F (or as high as your oven goes – mine only goes to 450°F) and let the pan preheat with the oven. When it reaches temperature, set the timer for an hour. After an hour, turn off the oven but do not open the oven door. Let it cool off with the pan inside for two hours, at which point it’s cool enough to handle.

The pan will come out of the oven a little darker, but matte in texture – not the semi-gloss you’re aiming for. It needs more coats. In fact, it needs at least six coats. So again rub on the oil, wipe it off, put it in the cold oven, let it preheat, bake for an hour, and let it cool in the oven for two hours. The picture above was taken after six coats of seasoning. At that point it starts to develop a bit of a sheen and the pan is ready for use.

If you try this, you will be tempted to use a thicker coat of oil to speed up the process. Don’t do it. It just gets you an uneven surface – or worse, baked on drips. Been there, done that. You can’t speed up the process. If you try, you’ll mess up the pan and have to start over.

The reason for the very hot oven is to be sure the temperature is above the oil’s smoke point, and to maximally accelerate the release of free radicals. Unrefined flaxseed oil actually has the lowest smoke point of any oil (see this table). But the higher the temperature the more it will smoke, and that’s good for seasoning (though bad for eating – do not let oils smoke during cooking).

I mentioned earlier there’s a myth floating around that vegetable oils leave a sticky residue. If the pan comes out of the oven sticky, the cause is one of three things:

You put the oil on too thick.
Your oven temperature was too low.
Your baking time was too short.

It’s possible to use a suboptimal oil for seasoning, like Crisco or bacon drippings, and still end up with a usable pan. Many (most) people do this. But the seasoning will be relatively soft, not as nonstick, and will tend to wear off. If you want the hardest, slickest seasoning possible, use the right oil: flaxseed oil.

Editorial Note:

Many flax oils contain added ingredients to prevent rancidity, and it’s the tendency of this oil to go rancid that makes it so good for seasoning pans. Flax oil only works if it’s 100% pure flax oil with nothing added, so read the ingredients! People have reported mixed results, and this is probably why.
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I put oil (usually olive) in a bowl, then dip a wadded up paper towel in the oil and rub on the grates just before placing whatever I am grilling.

I only do this if I am grilling something that I don't want to coat in olive oil first directly on the food.
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I treat my cast iron grill grates with new stainless steel grill grates. Works like a charm.
I do the same
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use an uncooked potato sliced in half,
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done.
This, use flaxseed oil to season them
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I just throw some cooking spray on right before I drop the food on the charcoal grill or smoker, but the grates are pretty well seasoned from all the fatty meats.
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I just throw some cooking spray on right before I drop the food on the charcoal grill or smoker, but the grates are pretty well seasoned from all the fatty meats.
THIS. Shoot 'em with PAM, she's grate!

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