Java,

how about this:

get a long tape measure and measure the geometry of your drive way, at least the corner

then find a place where you can replicate the driveway with cones and just see if you can make the corner using your jeep?

I don't think you will have a problem with the elevation change and I don't see you having a problem with traction either

I think you are over-thinking this a bit

and make sure the trailer tires are inflated on the high side, but maybe not max

the jeep has such a short wheel base that you shouldn't have a problem making that corner

Does the trailer have a wheel on the tongue Jack ? If it does you can take some of the weight off the front of the Jeep .

I bet that Jeep could move it far enough to come back at it with a bigger truck. 4Lo can move a load.

If not. How about ratchet strapping a few engine dollies on the tongue do you can push the trailer. straight. Then a jeep already position on the other side can tow it up while ties off to the trailer frame. Just move it enough until you can ge back on it with a big truck.

Oh. Damn.


My trailer store near my office uses a forklift. He stacks them tight on his lot. That forklift can pirouette a tight radius. Maybe call a trailer dealership?

A bobcat loader could move that easy.

Um, if you think too much tongue weight is the issue, put 400# of sand bags at the back of the trailer and you'll have no tongue weight. Your Jeep could do it in a heartbeat. You might be overthinking the whole thing.

Jeep 3500lb front hitch
350 lb tongue weight on a jeep
https://www.etrailer.com/question-9920.html

or this!

https://trailervalet.com

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While you have that tape out measuring the corner, it would be illuminating the stretch it out tight across the dip and measure the clearance at the center.

Driving my rig all over the country these last few years has helped me develope a good eye for spots that will hang up my rig. And your dip has that look.

You can see the rear overhang that I deal with. Check the overhang on the trailer.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1559530860.jpg

from my reading those power dollies don't have the power to deal with much more than flat terrain.

Looking at your pics, the trailer does have pretty good ground clearance. Did you have a go at getting it in there already ?

Cheers Richard

Very plausible. My wife would agree 100%. I am a total novice with trailers and frankly a bit intimidated. The likely situation is that you all will get the "hold my beer" Youtube video but it will end well :) I will have on hand the gravel bags to raise the trailer. I know for certain that it will bind front/back depending on pulling or backing. Ready for that. Will not spend the money on a front hitch. This is a "one and done" placement. No intentions of moving the trailer out of here until the time is upon me. I prefer pulling it in being the novice and lacking good rear visibility. As folks have said my Jeep has a good turning radius, well it's a LJ so not the best radius, but for sure better than the GMC 3/4 ton truck that tried previously. I will pull the entire distance 4L and hope for the best.

If I could rent one I would be on it like white on rice.

Yes I did the measurements, even towed a string with marked distance to the end point with straight runs to mark the trailer frame. It will be tight but doable as long as I remain calm and drink lots of beer in the process :) Again I am overwhelmed with the PPOT community for the great advice and humor.

YOU CAN DO IT

and if you screw up you don't know me :D

Either hire "a guy" or take videos and post them here!

Good luck David...we're here to help a brother out..AND for amusement ;)

FWIW, in the time we've spent debating this I would have had the thing on the lot with a skid loader and a trailer spotter attachment.

^^^^ but we won't find that amusing and won't keep this thread going!

Yer on thin ice...thread killer ;)

It's what we dooooooo...

damn. JB..i wish i was closer. i'd take a swing at that with my tacoma.

i think bigger trailers are ironically easier to steer. they pivot slower and more predictably. i still get occasionally twisted up with those fast acting tiny utility trailers.

your Jeep could park that thing. turning radius while backing is vastly different than turning radius going forward.

I think pushing is a bad idea going into and out of that dip. I'd feel much more comfortable pulling it. When you get it in to position it doesn't matter which end is facing out, right? Maybe you covered this but is there any room anywhere along the straight part for the tow vehicle to slip past the trailer?

One more thought is to put you gravel down and cover it with thick plywood, like 1 1/8th flooring. You can attach chains to the edge and stake them really well to prevent any slippage. 2-3 sheets might be alll you need. I'd feel better about 'pushing' if the dip was mitigated. And if you get a tractor operator see if you can find one with some sheets of steel like the ones they use in the street to cover excavation.

If all else fails, you could bridge the rear frame members and put a hitch on the back. Weight it down and pull it in. Richard mentioned using the tongue jack with a wheel (hopefully a larger pneumatic one) to aid the process. I think on most cases that would be dicey but that's in 'most' cases. Someone would have to be in attendance on the jack every inch of the way.

I'm all for watching Vash do the job with the Tacoma. Where do I get a ticket? ;):D

i just need a spotter that knows what a true 6" looks like. :)

man..that last pic. that corner is TIGHT!!

i'm feeling sick that day. whoa.

can you disassemble a few panels on the inside corner?

I got ya' covered!

Mount a couple of under the rear of your trailer and back it right in:

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1559580998.jpg

Once the trailer bottoms out in the ditch and all the weight is on the dollies (and the tires are in the air)- go push the rear of the trailer sideways to line it up with the straight part of the driveway.

- and then back it on up the driveway like a champ!

:D

(obviously- you'd need the next size up in dolly- like perhaps say a $30 HF dolly- oh- and some really big mongo sized friends to push the trailer sideways when it gets up on the turn) :)

You just need some training wheels on the trailer...

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1084885904.jpg


http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsche-911-technical-forum/163512-training-wheels-my-porsche.html

^^^ that will never go away. hahahhahaha..

Another solution! Wait until there's a local world's strongest man competition and have them carry it.
Done and done!

Or hire this guy!
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Success!
 

I have been stressing about this all week. I have an incredible neighbor who was investigating and asking advice from his contractor friends. Thank you Jim! This morning the wife and I dedicated the day to the move and kicked off the process at 10 am. I had to move the trailer out of Jim's property, down the road, and reverse into a long driveway to turn around and prepare for a pull entry. I have practiced this entry all week long coming home from work. Jim had some heavy lumber which came in handy to raise the trailer in the bottom of the turn. Lots of difficult angles. We had 4 spotters, my wife in black guiding my front bumper past the fence. The Jeep did great! I drove it in in 4L and had no issues with power...brakes on the down hill were a bit iffy...the trailer is 6800 lbs.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1560046870.jpg
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I can gloat a bit, not one time did I have to back up and redo the drive. It was low and slow the entire time. Shut down the motor, have a drink (water), walk the situation. Once on the straight approach to the main yard I had to negotiate a left turn and long pull deep into the property. I had 10 70 lb sacks of gravel in heavy plastic to ease the transition back onto the pavers...do not want to destroy the soldier stones in concrete holding it in place. I got the trailer pulled in place, backed to fence, and disconnected the Jeep to reposition for a pull into the fence line end spot.

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A couple pulls and reposition and we are IN PLACE! The Jeep is now TRAPPED! HAHA! Not really, I have a few feet in front to start pivoting out. Cut down some old growth to make that happen. I left the Jeep attached so that we could level the trailer in the morning fresh with some eggs and coffee.

I want to thank everyone on this board for posting your advice and encouragement. I am 58 and have never pulled a trailer before. I plan to level and block it tomorrow, connect to power from the home.

Awesome! I am very disappointed there's not a John Deere tractor in the pics though ;)

Nicely done too...fer a rookie!

Backing a trailer is an art; nice work!

Congrats on getting it done with no casualties !

On the heels of the Normandy invasion anniversary....thanks for saving the soldiers!

Good job and thanks for the pics. :)