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fastfredracing 06-05-2019 02:47 PM

Does it grind your gears when the po po speeds ?
 
This morning, at the only traffic light on my way to work, I am sitting right behind a cruiser from the next town over. Not in his jurisdiction . Light turns green, and he hauls ass down the road. I tailed him . 83 in a 50 mph zone. No lights on , no sirens, no emergency . I stayed back quite a few car lengths , but this went for about 5- 6 miles . He was rolling along averaging roughly 80 mph.
I speed too, so I guess I should not get too bent, but sheesh. Double standard much. That would be a pretty fat ticket if I got snagged for it
I sort of wanted to take the car # and report it, but we all know it won't really do any good .

LWJ 06-05-2019 03:02 PM

Yes. They have a higher standard that they need to comply to.

Bugs the crap out of me.

Gogar 06-05-2019 03:03 PM

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Jim Richards 06-05-2019 03:05 PM

I love it when they turn on their lights to run a red light, then turn them right back off.

wilnj 06-05-2019 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim Richards (Post 10481788)
I love it when they turn on their lights to run a red light, then turn them right back off.


Even better, I was at a red light next to a NYPD Explorer, in the cross traffic, lead car stops to make a left and the two cars behind him have a low speed, chain reaction collision.

I see the Explorer’s light go on and think, oh great, he’s going to block the whole intersection. Nope, lights on, he made a right from the left lane and left.




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Scott Douglas 06-05-2019 05:14 PM

The ones that would really piss me off were the motor cops speeding on their way up the freeway in the mornings during commute time. Traffic could be moving at 60-65 and they'd think nothing of doing 80+. Just because they could.

widebody911 06-05-2019 05:20 PM

I followed a Sacramento County Sheriff one morning as he blew through every single stop sign for about 3 miles on the way back to the station. No lights or siren - just quittin' time.

MBAtarga 06-05-2019 05:45 PM

There is a recent case here in GA where a PO PO broadsided a car with 2 young girls in it. They were turning left in front of him - he was going 90+MPH with no lights/sirens running. Killed one of the girls. He was first found guilty, then case got overturned on a technicality. Not sure if it will be retried.

widebody911 06-05-2019 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 10481917)
There is a recent case here in GA where a PO PO broadsided a car with 2 young girls in it.

A few years ago something similar almost happened to me: I was front-of-the-line at a green light but forgot to put it in gear; before I could get moving, a Sacramento County Sheriff came hauling ass through the intersection through the red light - no lights or sirens. I was in my Karmann Ghia, so he would have punted me into the middle of next week, and I'm sure the "internal affairs" investigation would have found me at fault.

David 06-05-2019 10:51 PM

Typically I don’t mind, but I have been passed on my bicycle by a state trooper going over 100 which seemed pretty reckless.

rwest 06-06-2019 12:34 AM

You ever been on the freeway when they go the speed limit? Messes the heck out of traffic. I think they should always go a bit faster- not excessive mind you.

The other side of the “coin” is that if they aren’t going faster, they can’t check out as many drivers for infractions as the scenery doesn’t change.

wilnj 06-06-2019 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MBAtarga (Post 10481917)
There is a recent case here in GA where a PO PO broadsided a car with 2 young girls in it. They were turning left in front of him - he was going 90+MPH with no lights/sirens running. Killed one of the girls. He was first found guilty, then case got overturned on a technicality. Not sure if it will be retried.


Similar case here in NJ. Trooper ran a stop sign with no lights and sirens and killed 2 sisters. Jury found him not guilty.

https://lawofficer.com/archive/nj-trooper-acquitted-in-crash-that-killed-sisters/


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oldE 06-06-2019 02:06 AM

For me it depends upon the situation.

If I observed a peace officer speeding in a residential area, I would report them myself.
On the highway, I expect them not to hold up or disrupt traffic.

Years ago, passing through Quebec in the days of a two lane highway with overtaking lanes on long hills, we caught up to a line of cars which had a Quebec Provincial Police cruiser at the front. He was driving at the exact limit. After several miles with more and more cars joining this mobile roadblock, the police car caught up to a semi truck and, at the next hill, stayed tucked in behind the truck as it remained in the right lane.
Immediately every car which had been bottled up behind the QPP went by in an unbroken line and we never saw the police car again.

Conversely, one day when I found myself leaving the house late for work, I was not happy to see a RCMP cruiser pull onto the highway behind me, thinking I would not be able to make time. I was much happier when he overtook me and proceeded up the highway at a pace I was very pleased to copy. I made it to work with minutes to spare!

Best
Les

KFC911 06-06-2019 02:18 AM

When they get double the limit between lights....I can't keep up with them bastids anymore :(.

Yes...I grind my gears trying....G50s ain't cheap.

Been thinkin' about a Mustang though :)!

Shaun @ Tru6 06-06-2019 02:37 AM

State Troopers like to tailgate cars here on the Mass Pike, 3 feet off the rear bumper. They'll come up behind you fast and hang there. Maybe to push you to speed or just to intimidate you to get out of the way as Dunkin Donuts is closing soon.

I've called the barracks a few times with the trooper's plate number to complain.

osidak 06-06-2019 02:44 AM

20 or so years ago in Hickory NC a local cop was running more than 70mph in a 35mph zone. No lights, no siren.


He t-boned a 17 y/o girl killing her instantly. They refused to find that he did anything wrong and walked without even a hearing.

not too long after that I witnessed an accident between a city cop and a civilian.

the cop was working an accident. traffic was snarled badly. the officer decided to move her car. in the process she plowed right into a car that wasn't moving. She jumped out of the car and immediately starting yelling at and blaming the other driver saying he failed yield an emergency vehicle.

the guy wasn't moving, he couldn't move due to traffic. she started to write him a ticket. that's when I got out the car and told the guy I witnessed the entire thing and gave him my info. she of course demanded a copy of the info....


she backed away from citing him but just about everyday for months I would see her in my mirror and occasionally I would see drive real slow past my apartment.


gotta love it

cabmandone 06-06-2019 03:48 AM

So much so that I chased down an Ohio Highway Patrolman and called him in for speeding. His commanding officer didn't like it when he asked if I'd like to press charges against him and my reply was "let him know I'm letting him off with a warning"

Jims5543 06-06-2019 04:15 AM

A friend if mine was a street patrol, now a detective.

When he was street patrol he hardly ever wrote a speeding ticket. His reasoning was he would be a hypocrite if he did.

He is a car guy always fixing up cars and has a nice supercharged S2000.

He said the only way he would write someone for speeding is if that driver was driving like a moron, weaving and being reckless, if they were simply going too fast he would always just warn them.



Back in the 90's I knew a guy from the RX7 world that lived outside Baton rouge AL. He claimed there was a local cop with a suped up patrol car. If he caught you street racing you had 2 options, take the ticket or race him for double or nothing.

That forum guy had a 450hp RX7 way back then, he didn't get a ticket that night. :D

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Porchdog 06-06-2019 04:32 AM

Police (and politicians, and "Security"/ Secret Service) need to be held to every single law that is imposed on the citizens.

They should not only be charged for violating the traffic regulations that they are supposed to enforce, they should be fired for those violations.

If a state restricts gun features, magazine capacity, hollow point bullets, those same restrictions need to be on the Police.

Rules regarding concealed carry reciprocity, handgun free zones? Same for police as the rest of the population.

The laws that give these particular individuals more rights on the basis of their employment are blatantly unconstitutional.

Here in the real world that we live in we can't even stop the open bribery of our lawmakers. Good luck getting the Constitution and laws enforced evenly.

Tidybuoy 06-06-2019 04:45 AM

I don't really car is a cop speeds or turns on the lights so they can run a light. However, I can't stand it when they (or anyone else) doesn't use their turn signals. To me, that is inconsiderate and shows that someone is a crappy driver.

vash 06-06-2019 04:58 AM

Nope. Not at all. They are cruising faster to catch up with speeders.

Or shadowing a speeder ahead.

At least that’s what I think. Could be wrong. But that’s how I got busted. Dude crept up to me in my blind spot and marked my speed. Busted!

Tervuren 06-06-2019 05:06 AM

Situational.

If it is the Barney Fife hanging out giving tickets for going 50.1MPH in a 50MPH zone, yes.

To me it is about control and awareness.

I have seen police officers not able to keep a lane, using their laptop. In that situation even going the speed limit is dangerous.

ramonesfreak 06-06-2019 05:26 AM

A few months ago a cop comes speeding up behind me with his lights on so I pull over on a very narrow road with a curb along side it, no shoulder and very dangerous area. Scraped my brand new rim on my truck pretty bad. As soon as he gets by me he turns his lights off and then stops normally at the red light at intersection. No emergency.

Sorry just never have been a fan of cops and I’ve known a few personally.

Few years ago I’m pulling away from street parking in 911 and putting on seat belt at the same time. Cop immediately pulls me over and gives seat belt ticket and says “ you always drive your PORSHHH without wearing your seat belt”. I argued with him and that didn’t go so well.

I see cops excessively speeding while on their cell phones. Pisses me off

GH85Carrera 06-06-2019 05:27 AM

What grinds my gears the most is sitting in traffic at a red light, our light turns to green, and some ashat blows the red light and the cop ignores that. Most cops will ignore 5 to 8 over except in school zones and in a school zone, 25 means 25 not 30.

GH85Carrera 06-06-2019 05:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ramonesfreak (Post 10482253)
A few months ago a cop comes speeding up behind me with his lights on so I pull over on a very narrow road with a curb along side it, no shoulder and very dangerous area. Scraped my brand new rim on my truck pretty bad. As soon as he gets by me he turns his lights off and then stops normally at the red light at intersection. No emergency.

Sorry just never have been a fan of cops and I’ve known a few personally.

Few years ago I’m pulling away from street parking in 911 and putting on seat belt at the same time. Cop immediately pulls me over and gives seat belt ticket and says “ you always drive your PORSHHH without wearing your seat belt”. I argued with him and that didn’t go so well.

I see cops excessively speeding while on their cell phones. Pisses me off

Arguing with a cop on the side of the road will never ever work, 100% of the time. Never. Ever. If it is important enough, just wait until the court date, and tell your story to the judge. You have just a slightly better chance unless you have strong evidence in your favor. Just be polite and respectful, and answer the questions and do not add any details. And use yes sir and nor sir, and do not give them any attitude.

Always buckle up before you drive away.

herr_oberst 06-06-2019 05:49 AM

Watching cops speeding through traffic doesn't really trigger me. Many other things do, but not that one.

herr_oberst 06-06-2019 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10482263)
Just be polite and respectful, and answer the questions and do not add any details. And use yes sir and nor sir, and do not give them any attitude.

Always buckle up before you drive away.

Yep. Hands on top of the dash or the steering wheel, wait until they ask a question before you speak, and like Glen says, show respect. It might raise your hackles, but that's the world we live in.

ramonesfreak 06-06-2019 07:14 AM

Didn’t like his arrogant attitude especially since I had the belt on. He made it clear he had a problem with the car I was in. I’m always respectful and just like cops, being a lawyer, I’m a part of a group that is hated because of a few bad apples so I have some empathy. But the older I get, the less I like cops, judges and lawyers. The three things that being a lawyer, I have to put up with every damn day. I guess I’m just sick of it.

Embraer 06-06-2019 07:15 AM

I don't care about speeding, but seeing them text, or mess around on a laptop while driving gets me going. Completely unacceptable.

island911 06-06-2019 07:35 AM

Yep ^ I don't mind any 'aggressive' driving as long as they are engaged/attentive. And as long as they are ok with others doing the same. :cool:

bleucamaro 06-06-2019 08:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by widebody911 (Post 10481893)
I followed a Sacramento County Sheriff one morning as he blew through every single stop sign for about 3 miles on the way back to the station. No lights or siren - just quittin' time.

Sac County Sheriffs are the worst drivers on the road. Full of ego and arrogance.
All while CHP are the best.

I prefer when LEOs speed (on the freeway). Otherwise it clogs up traffic.
Running Stop signs and lights, I cannot stand.

wdfifteen 06-06-2019 09:30 AM

I don’t mind them speeding if they are passing me. It’s when they’re speeding while following me that pisses me off. ;)

island911 06-06-2019 10:48 AM

Ever get a "no seatbelt: ticket from a cop. .... on a motorcycle...

They're all about safety, doncha know.

ramonesfreak 06-06-2019 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 10482671)
Ever get a "no seatbelt: ticket from a cop. .... on a motorcycle...

They're all about safety, doncha know.

Nope but when I lived in Manhattan I got one from a cop on a horse, really

Tobra 06-06-2019 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10482126)
State Troopers like to tailgate cars here on the Mass Pike, 3 feet off the rear bumper. They'll come up behind you fast and hang there. Maybe to push you to speed or just to intimidate you to get out of the way as Dunkin Donuts is closing soon.

I've called the barracks a few times with the trooper's plate number to complain.

Careful with that, nail that sticks up gets hammered down.

Nothing you could possibly say to them will change their behavior, it just calls you to their attention.


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