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Carbon Fiber Car

What is the cheapest full carbon tub based car that come from a real automotive manufacturer?

Ferrari or Lambo or something else?

Looks like an i3 or alfa 4c for a sport car...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_carbon_fiber_monocoque_cars

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Old 06-30-2019, 06:23 AM
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The cheapest... This one (not full carbon chassis and good luck finding one in the US.)



Something more attainable than a Ferrari or Lamborghini?

Alfa Romea 4C... Carbon Fibre Monocoque Chassis, Composite Body Shell.
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The BMW i3 is only a partially of CFRP construction and is not of the traditional form that you would describe a monocoque- it is essentially made like a stamped body in white, but with sheet-molded individual carbon fiber reinforced panels that are hot pressed in a tool and then trimmed and bonded together into the unibody much like a bonded hybrid steel/Al BIW is built. An all aluminum substructure for the battery and rear suspension is them bolted to it.

The cheapest production car carbon fiber monocoque that is a full, traditional style hollow-section carbon tub is the Alfa Romeo 4C. Nothing else comes closer as far as I am aware.


sc_rufctr: that MG SVR is purely a steel weldment chassis that has carbon body panels bonded to it. The main structure is not a composite monocoque.
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The cheapest... This one (not full carbon chassis and good luck finding one in the US.)



Something more attainable than a Ferrari or Lamborghini?

Alfa Romea 4C... Carbon Fibre Monocoque Chassis, Composite Body Shell.
Good looking car too.

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The BMW i3 is only a partially of CFRP construction and is not of the traditional form that you would describe a monocoque- ....
hmmm...

i3





4C


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I'd say the BMW I3 is the cheapest from a real automotive company

I think they are leading the rest of the automotive industry by around 5-10yrs for a production orientated car rather than niche car

When we did the McLaren F1 road car we took F1 racing materials and processes and productionised. We made everything up the best we could and at a stretch would have only been able to manufacture one car week.

This was from a bygone age before the computer aided manufacturing as used today.

I can only personally comment on one other car on the list which is the La Ferrari, this again was made using F1 materials and manufacturing techniques but with the latest CAD, CNC technology.
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BMW will continue to lead too, since they have a CF 'production' facility near the largest source of cheap hydro going

kinda like Boeing did in WWII
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Serious question: what happens to retired carbon fiber vehicles? Do they get "chipped / mulched"? Recycled or what?

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