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RWebb 07-09-2019 03:50 PM

"Semi-Stubby" Flat Tip Screwdriver??
 
I'm looking for a flat tip screwdriver for a slotted screw (an idle jet on a PMO carb, actually).

It needs to be no longer overall than 3.5"

Tip needs to be about 0.035" inch (I THINK)

My old Snap-On stubby screwdriver fits easily (too easily into the slots) but I'd like a little more length to make it easier to hold....

a Hazet with the nice grippy cross-ground tip would be most excellent

Any ideas?

I just need one, not a set. Is there a "Screwdrivers 'R Us" mail order place somewhere on der internet?

pwd72s 07-09-2019 04:49 PM

This guy used to sell individual Hazet tools...might give him a ring or an rmail message.

https://zdmak.com/

Also, out host used to sell SK tools, so maybe some luck there.

Or...chase down a snap-on truck?

RWebb 07-09-2019 04:54 PM

Thanks - I'm tired of chasing the SnapOn guy(s) - I did get a free hat and T-shirt a few years ago...

I also tried to buy form SnapOff on the website (they are happy to undercut the franchisees...) but as I was finishing checking out... it crashed saying they were doing maintenance on it - WTF? can't they tell you that before you fill out all the fields??

I think my strategy will be to review (and maybe buy) every damn stubby screwdriver sold and see what happens...

john70t 07-09-2019 05:06 PM

Why does anyone need to spend hours chasing a $50 elite screwdriver from SnapOn made in China to adjust carbs a few times a year?

They should be chasing you.

Take any screwdriver with a stout shaft.
Cut it, heat it, pound it flat, grind into a perfect blade to fit.
There it is.

RWebb 07-09-2019 05:13 PM

no torch except MAPP gas

JackDidley 07-09-2019 05:16 PM

I cut an inch off the hndle of a longer screwdriver when I needed a semi-stubby.

island911 07-09-2019 05:19 PM

Chapman MFG Screwdriver Sets --excellent flatheads (no taper) and stubby handles. And made in the US

https://chapmanmfg.com/

dad911 07-09-2019 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10518321)
......
I just need one, not a set. Is there a "Screwdrivers 'R Us" mail order place somewhere on der internet?

Amazon?

https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=stubby+screwdriver&ref=nb_sb_noss_2

island911 07-09-2019 05:27 PM

more info
 
https://chapmanmfg.com/products/chapman-mfg-slotted-stubby-screwdrivers

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1562722048.jpg

cstreit 07-09-2019 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10518321)
...but I'd like a little more length to make it easier to hold....

Hmmm?

sc_rufctr 07-09-2019 05:39 PM

Forget the rest... You need this one!

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rusnak 07-09-2019 05:52 PM

O'Reilly's or Vato Zone.

No seriously. And I might add that I am a Tool Snob. I have nothing but Stahlwille, Knipex, Hazet, Gedore, and the like. But for a one-off you can get either the original Weber screwdriver, or one from your FLAPS.

john70t 07-09-2019 06:00 PM

My #2 phillips are like those dang 10mm sockets.
Where is my mind.

rusnak 07-09-2019 06:10 PM

Or this one:

https://www.kctoolco.com/cart.php?suggest=17e8e0ca-40e3-4bcf-80d4-1dd468dbc9a5

fanaudical 07-09-2019 07:09 PM

For stuff like this I usually take the closest generic screwdriver tip I have (the kind that fit in your 1/4" socket driver) and then grind it to fit with my Dremel or bench grinder. I have a small collection of custom-dressed screwdriver bits that get used only occasionally...

RWebb 07-09-2019 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rusnak (Post 10518513)


wow! that place is German tool heaven

Nickshu 07-09-2019 08:08 PM

A bench grinder can make all sorts of screwdriver shapes when needed.

RWebb 07-09-2019 08:46 PM

I'm gonna buy something, not make it.

I have choked myself down to buying one tool per year (or 2 years), and this it for this year.

(Last time it was a special stubby 155 mm Snap-Off socket that lets me torque the oil drain plug on my 3.2L motor with SSIs on it. Nevermind that my adjusted iron wrist can hit the squish on the crush washer just fine w/ a wrench... I still bought it).

Bill Douglas 07-09-2019 09:03 PM

Screwdrivers like the Chapman one in the pic can be bought from Midway gun supply shop. They use them for working on guns so S&W sideplate screws aren't messed up.

I've ended up putting black heatshrink on my 10mm spanners and squarehead/Robertson#2 screwdrivers to make them easier to find in the box of screwdrivers or big box of wrenches.

pwd72s 07-10-2019 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by island911 (Post 10518433)
Chapman MFG Screwdriver Sets --excellent flatheads (no taper) and stubby handles. And made in the US

https://chapmanmfg.com/

I thought I had all the screwdrivers I could possibly need...:(

island911 07-10-2019 08:02 AM

:) you likely do. But if you find some hard to get to screw --like on newer cars designed in CAD-- it's nice to know what's available. They sell direct or thru Amazon. I buy direct.

RWebb 07-10-2019 10:19 AM

I couldn't figure out the different designations for the Chapman screwdriver sizes. May try on a browser window w/o any blocking for popups, etc. on it.

I did however find some SWISS screwdrivers...

https://www.shop.pbtools.us/PB-8135-SwissGrip-Stubby-Screwdriver-for-Slotted-Flat-screws_c418.htm

rusnak 07-10-2019 09:18 PM

If you have original Webers, then your best move is to make a custom screwdriver by meticulously filing down one that is slightly too wide.

john70t 07-11-2019 04:50 AM

I know you don't want to make a new tool, but adding a perpendicular stub helps in fine-tuning angles and remembering number of turns.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/uploa...1562849296.jpg

flatbutt 07-11-2019 05:43 AM

Have mercy guys please!! I'm on a fixed income. Yer killin' me with these awesome websites!

island911 07-11-2019 09:05 AM

:) ^ I know. right?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RWebb (Post 10519260)
I couldn't figure out the different designations for the Chapman screwdriver sizes. ...

https://chapmanmfg.com/collections/individual-parts/products/slotted-insert-bits

Pull-down menu gives dim's.

RWebb 07-11-2019 09:40 AM

Thx


BTW, I found a nice looking Hazet but it is $26 or $41 (2 sellers) - seems crazy

The SnapOff and others are mostly in the $10-$14 range

gtc 07-11-2019 11:54 AM

I'd take a Craftsman stubby and melt the shaft out, then cut off and epoxy in a tip i liked from another screwdriver.

Zeke 07-11-2019 12:25 PM

I seem to get along fine with my assortment of orphan screwdrivers plus a set of CM in flat and Phillips. I have some SO and other "truck" brands as well. A good CM is as good IMHO.

The trick is to have the blade of a taper model just not quite bottom out. If it has any movement before you bare down with the torque, you're heading for a problem. I have more flat SD's because I have lots of thicknesses to fit screws of many origings. On the antiques I work on there will be nothing but slotted screws and I need to keep them so they don't look like they have been used.

The so called hollow ground models allow not a fraction of tolerance. If the slotted screw has already been buggered, no screw driver alone will help much. You have to resort to the various 'tricks'. I have a drawer for all those tools as well.

Agreed about special equipment like Webers. Get or make a SD that fits perfectly and keep it fresh and not to be used on your Briggs and Stratton or as a chisel.

How many kludges do you know that have used their SD's for everything? I keep a drawer with dead ones for just that. I'm not immune from abusing tools. I just know which ones to beat on.

red-beard 07-11-2019 12:44 PM

https://amazon.com/Screwdriver-Multi-Bit-Klein-Tools-32561/dp/B005FQDHHC/ref=sr_1_3?crid=M739FJETI8R5&keywords=stubby+adjus table+screwdriver&qid=1562877805&s=gateway&sprefix =stubby+adju%2Caps%2C151&sr=8-3

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon....L._SL1000_.jpg

rusnak 07-11-2019 02:08 PM

What can I say, Milt knows his stuff when it comes to tools. Well done.

RWebb 07-11-2019 03:59 PM

I had my eye on that Klein for a while - we'll see how the Swiss ones do.

Other brands I looked at:
Hazet - too spendy
Tecton
Wera
Wiha - have a bunch of different blade thicknesses
- a few others I forgot

I rejected Crapsman as being too crappy - the horizontal ridges on the blade are just stamped in - rounded in profile and don't help hold it in the slot well. I have 2 of them and use them as pry bars... or loaners.

mjohnson 07-11-2019 04:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke (Post 10520713)
...or as a chisel...

Oh lord that's my life. I keep a pristine set of Wihas locked up and hidden - my PhD Engineer wife believes that every screwdriver wants to grow up one day to be a chisel.

A SD that fits perfectly is a pleasure to use.

cabmandone 07-11-2019 06:03 PM

Yer takin all the fun out of it if you're not willing to get creative!

A930Rocket 07-11-2019 06:37 PM

Flashback...

I come home from work one day and my wife had taken one of my Snap On gasket scrapers and was using it and a hammer to cut bricks in half.

I was not happy. 😡

Quote:

Originally Posted by mjohnson (Post 10521021)
Oh lord that's my life. I keep a pristine set of Wihas locked up and hidden - my PhD Engineer wife believes that every screwdriver wants to grow up one day to be a chisel.

A SD that fits perfectly is a pleasure to use.


porsche930dude 07-11-2019 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A930Rocket (Post 10521135)
Flashback...

I come home from work one day and my wife had taken one of my Snap On gasket scrapers and was using it and a hammer to cut bricks in half.

I was not happy. ��

Thats what I was thinking! If its anything like my tools. I have 50 screwdrivers in a drawer only to find my favorite flathead with no tip on it. My brother or dad use them for prybars and chizels. Wont be long till all my old usa made tools are busted. Cant have anything nice

Zeke 07-12-2019 12:12 PM

My wife broke the tip off a 10" French cooking knife. It was a Henckel.


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