Pelican Parts Forums

Pelican Parts Forums (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/)
-   Off Topic Discussions (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/)
-   -   4500 years before the pyramids (http://forums.pelicanparts.com/off-topic-discussions/1034821-4500-years-before-pyramids.html)

Rtrorkt 07-16-2019 03:27 PM

Potentially the source of the flood story in the bible and many other religious texts.

tcar 07-16-2019 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10526246)
I have to wonder what kinda motion happens with the supposed hit that made the gulf mexico happened.

Do things on the earth pop around a lot in an event like that?

The Gulf of Mexico was not formed by a 'hit'. It was just moving plate tectonics... N. America and S. America moved apart.


Are you talking about the 'dinosaur ending' meteorite? That hit the Yucatan peninsula on the edge of the Gulf. Did not change the coastline much, they don't think.

masraum 07-16-2019 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tcar (Post 10526464)
The Gulf of Mexico was not formed by a 'hit'. It was just moving plate tectonics... N. America and S. America moved apart.


Are you talking about the 'dinosaur ending' meteorite? That hit the Yucatan peninsula on the edge of the Gulf. Did not change the coastline much, they don't think.

https://assets.atlasobscura.com/medi...lub_Map-1-.jpg

JackDidley 07-16-2019 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10526017)

I also think that folks that are convinced they know how things were in prehistoric times are generally not nearly as clever as they believe themselves to be.

^^^^^^
This. Just because we have the internet, that does not make us smart.

cabmandone 07-17-2019 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 10526130)
They found a "made in China" stamp in the corner of the pyramids..

Now THAT is funny!

Tervuren 07-17-2019 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10526316)
I'm not an archeologist, and I didn't stay in any sort of hotel last night, but I think your uncle is right in many ways. I think lots of scientists over the years and possibly still many/most think that ancient man was primitive and couldn't figure much stuff out. I think that's short sited. I think a lot more went on than scientists think. I think man has always done a lot of traveling, probably mostly by foot or animal, but also by boat that science has always thought was unlikely. I think that a lot more was known by the folks way back than they are given credit for. Just because we don't have a written record doesn't mean that it wasn't complex.

Great Uncle, he was retired from being active on the front edge about the time I was born.

He lived a long trek away, wish I could have spent more time listening to him. Brilliant, very knowledgeable; he had an attribute I admire of some one who posses these, an attitude that acknowledged he could be dead wrong.

He could easily separate information from conjecture. In teaching, he would give the information and conjecture separately. Much of his contrarian conjecture is playing out in new information in my life time. The mainstream conjecture of his day is not fairing as well.

He made it known that our initial bias causes us to lower or raise the value of particular information in order to paint the picture we desire. You can create entirely different pictures from the same set of paint.

The more one knows the greater the boundaries of what they recognize they do not know.

I am not a firm believer in steady continuous unnoticeable change. Rapid change is becoming more and more evident.

tabs 07-17-2019 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tervuren (Post 10527134)
Great Uncle, he was retired from being active on the front edge about the time I was born.

He lived a long trek away, wish I could have spent more time listening to him. Brilliant, very knowledgeable; he had an attribute I admire of some one who posses these, an attitude that acknowledged he could be dead wrong.

He could easily separate information from conjecture. In teaching, he would give the information and conjecture separately. Much of his contrarian conjecture is playing out in new information in my life time. The mainstream conjecture of his day is not fairing as well.

He made it known that our initial bias causes us to lower or raise the value of particular information in order to paint the picture we desire. You can create entirely different pictures from the same set of paint.

The more one knows the greater the boundaries of what they recognize they do not know.

I am not a firm believer in steady continuous unnoticeable change. Rapid change is becoming more and more evident.

Yet your propensity to kill remains the same.

tabs 07-17-2019 10:18 AM

News flash the latest archaeological discovery in the hieroglypics in.Egypt reveals that the Rolling Stones played the Pyramids 4500 years ago. Their played list included Start Me Up.

KFC911 07-17-2019 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tabs (Post 10527348)
News flash the latest archaeological discovery in the hieroglypics in.Egypt reveals that the Rolling Stones played the Pyramids 4500 years ago. Their played list included Start Me Up.

Keef is actually starting to show a bit of wear & tear ya know....

...just as long as the guitar plays :)

Rtrorkt 07-17-2019 11:16 AM

I’m still waiting to see what they discover on Oak Island

GH85Carrera 07-17-2019 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by masraum (Post 10526316)
I'm not an archeologist, and I didn't stay in any sort of hotel last night, but I think your uncle is right in many ways. I think lots of scientists over the years and possibly still many/most think that ancient man was primitive and couldn't figure much stuff out. I think that's short sited. I think a lot more went on than scientists think. I think man has always done a lot of traveling, probably mostly by foot or animal, but also by boat that science has always thought was unlikely. I think that a lot more was known by the folks way back than they are given credit for. Just because we don't have a written record doesn't mean that it wasn't complex.

Most of the scientists I have seen have stated that the "caveman" homo sapiens that goes back 200,000 years or possibly more, were as intelligent as modern day humans. They simply did not have the thousands of years of learning we have had to build on. If a time traveler could bring an infant form back then to today and put them in the same schools and modern environment of a first world nation they would be no different than the rest of humanity.

We are lucky enough to live in modern times.

Rick Lee 07-17-2019 11:26 AM

Old Steven Wright joke:

He picked up a hitchiker, who told him the US gov't. had paid a ton of money to research who had built the Egyptian Pyramids. He was pretty sure it was a guy named Eddie.

KFC911 07-17-2019 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt (Post 10527427)
I’m still waiting to see what they discover on Oak Island

I still watch reruns of Al Capone's vault...

KFC911 07-17-2019 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Lee (Post 10527441)
Old Steven Wright joke:

He picked up a hitchiker, who told him the US gov't. had paid a ton of money to research who had built the Egyptian Pyramids. He was pretty sure it was a guy named Eddie.

Stone's stage manager....set builder extrordinaire...a stoner actually.

Yep...Eddie

GH85Carrera 07-17-2019 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt (Post 10527427)
I’m still waiting to see what they discover on Oak Island

Mud and rocks. It is lust like the show "Finding Bigfoot" that found the same thing and Oak Island, not a damn thing.

red-beard 07-17-2019 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10527442)
I still watch reruns of Al Capone's vault...

Are you expecting Geraldo Rivera will finally find something?

tabs 07-17-2019 12:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10527434)
Most of the scientists I have seen have stated that the "caveman" homo sapiens that goes back 200,000 years or possibly more, were as intelligent as modern day humans. They simply did not have the thousands of years of learning we have had to build on. If a time traveler could bring an infant form back then to today and put them in the same schools and modern environment of a first world nation they would be no different than the rest of humanity.

We are lucky enough to live in modern times.

Ohhh Geez now your bringing up TRUMP..

tabs 07-17-2019 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by red-beard (Post 10527500)
Are you expecting Geraldo Rivera will finally find something?

He did find a Stones tour Tee shirt from their Pyramids Tour 4500 years ago....... a empty bottle of Keiths Jack Daniels..and a few dead cock roaches..

Tervuren 07-17-2019 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rtrorkt (Post 10526442)
Potentially the source of the flood story in the bible and many other religious texts.

There is a problem with your opinion in that the survivors in surrounding regions would be in contact and thus not pass on a world wide flood legend.

Should those few that survive within the flood event attempt to pass on such a legend among themselves or their children; then within a time span of remembrance there would be contact with other peoples that survived or that were outside the flood event and this would end up in such a legend not passing on to successive generations.

Based on ancient historians that wrote down the spoken history of surrounding peoples, there appear to be in different parts of the world major flood events some occurring multiple times in the same region across different time spans.

You may point to these accounts and say "Aha, here is the source of the flood story in the bible", yet those recounting the flood story in the Bible might view what you point to as a separate smaller event. The knowledge was there.

It should also be noted that we have to deal with what has survived the savages of nature, warfare, and time.

Rodsrsr 07-17-2019 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera (Post 10527434)
Most of the scientists I have seen have stated that the "caveman" homo sapiens that goes back 200,000 years or possibly more, were as intelligent as modern day humans. They simply did not have the thousands of years of learning we have had to build on. If a time traveler could bring an infant form back then to today and put them in the same schools and modern environment of a first world nation they would be no different than the rest of humanity.

We are lucky enough to live in modern times.


In other words cavemen were just men....


All times are GMT -8. The time now is 11:16 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2025 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Pelican Parts Website


DTO Garage Plus vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.