Getting older and testosterone boosters
 

OK guys I'm 61 years old and while I am retired I can work outside in 90 degree heat for 10 hours straight if I want to or motivated . But having said that I can tell I'm slowing down some , in the arena of general stamina and yes in the bedroom :( I know it's just part of getting older and I am not freaking out . Last piece of data is I had prostate cancer in 2015 , caught early and relatively low Gleason score . Had radioactive seed implant plus follow up localized radiation . Knock on wood ( pun intended :D ) my PSA tested every 6 months since has been very low and all doc's are happy .

So you guys in a similar situation are you taking testosterone supplements/boosters ? Are you seeing a difference after a week or two or a month ? Or did it do nothing for you ? Not looking for Mr. Johnson to grow 4 " :D or to be able to run a marathon every week . Just looking for a general boost overall . And no I am NOT going to base what I do just based on what you guys say , I am going to consult with my doctor . But there is a lot of knowledge on this forum . Fire away gentleman !!! SmileWavy

Listening at 62 years old.

Have you googled your situation and TRT? Doesn’t look like a good idea.

Also, get tested for Factor V mutation. Death occurs in 1 of 5 with it that attempt TRT.

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I’m 58 and have been getting weekly T shots for the better part of 6yrs. I was experiencing fatigue esp in early aft and “nighttime energy” was waiting. Since I’ve been on my regimen I feel great energy wise and libido is decades better. I did go off for @ 6mos about a yr ago and noticed a HUGE diff. Def check with your doc. My .02

Yes I have and that's part of the reason I am asking here . I found results that say stay away and found other results that said not an issue . My doctor and I will have to be on the same page before I do anything .

At 67 and living with permanent nerve damage my muscle tone is equal to that of a 10 year old boy. I've looked at T therapy and came away with "thanks but no". Bottom line is our biology is not intended to maintain a higher level of testosterone at our age (+60's). No I'm not a doctor, but I spent nearly all of my adult life as a pharma chemist and I did development work for a generic outfit. Some people may be able to get away with it but not in general. YMMV

Flat I appreciate the feedback . I just sent an email to the doc that did my prostate cancer procedure to get his opinion . I will also check with my primary care physician . I will post the results when I get them .

You have Factor V? If so, research Dr. Charles Glueck. He is out of Cincinnati, Ohio and has done extensive research on this topic.

FWIW, I have also discussed this with local urologist that specializes in low-T, and an endocrinologist. Without even mentioning Glueck, both came away saying don't even consider replacement therapy. . . Way too risky.

Never heard of Factor V nor have any of my doctor's mentioned it so the answer is no. I do appreciate your feedback . Thanks

NP. Sorry I misread your post.

I recently asked my cardiologist about testosterone replacement and he said he wasn't concerned as long as I was just bringing my levels up to normal and not beyond. He said before I consider it I should try eating more fatty red meat and less vegetables and grains and see if that improves my mood and energy.

Doesn't that new wife of yours improve your mood and energy ?? How you doing buddy ?

A former co-worker is on it. 55 years old and looks like a roided-out monster. I'm guessing he's being liberal with his dosages. Each week I expect a call saying it has ended poorly...but I suppose it ends poorly for everyone sooner or later.

You might consider a tune up, plugs, valve adjust and oil change: try flushing your liver and kidneys and adding a few things to your diet.

Drink a glass of fresh water first thing with the juice of half an organic lemon, again at lunch and again before dinner. Get some kidney and liver cleanse tea and drink 3 cups a day. Stay hydrated.

Vitamins I feel result in very expensive urine, there are a few minerals that help with energy and digestion we no longer get from the foods we eat: Magnesium, Potassium, Selenium and vitamin D3. Study up and go slowly especially with the Mag as you can get the runs otherwise. They all work together to up your energy and stamina, Calcium boosts the effectiveness of the Mag.

Try to buy organic and avoid junk food and sodas (duh). That your Dr suggested fatty meats and fewer veggies is proof that major medical is clueless about diet. A blood test you can pay for yourself will tell you what you lack and what you may have too much of in your system; I have found this site to be invaluable as well as the free magazine each month they send if you order from them-no affiliation on my part.

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If you go for the blood test make sure to have your thyroid markers tested; it acts as a governor for hormones and many of us 60+ yr olds have piled so much krap into our systems it is normally out of whack.

I would agree with the above posts that testosterone injections/supplements are not a great idea. You would still need a blood test to see what your levels are and Drs do not check the more relevant markers like thyroid and mineral levels.

Start slow, after visiting the site for the first time you may feel inclined to buy all sorts of things you probably will not need once you get the kidneys and liver flushed. Google Andeas Morritz liver flush, not easy but a rapid improvement immediately in your overall well being.

Lastly, remember nothing good happens overnight, give it all 90 days and you will be feeling much much better.
Hope this helps,

at 53, I've been doing TRT self injections for a few years. For me it wasn't a 'winky didn't work' thing, but an energy and mood thing. I can tell if I miss an injection. In terms of the sexual stuff, bow chicka bow wow.

I'm 58 and have low testosterone. We did weekly injections for about 6 months to see if it did any good. I put on 20 lbs and got to relive that long lost young-buck-ready-to-fight-or-f*ck life. Did not like feeling like that then and I hated it now. I stopped, lost the weight and now sit gray-haired and content with how things are.
FWIW, the testosterone supplements did nothing for my energy or stamina.

Stay away from TRT. Artificially Increased testosterone levels may cause cancer. Additionally, once you start a TRT regimen you're on it for life....No thanks. If you do anything go natural. Lift weights (heavy if possible) stretch and stay active. As someone else mentioned, a 61 year old body is not designed to have the tes levels of a 21 year old. Obviously nutrition also plays a big part. Eliminating added sugars 100% will do amazing things to your body. Interment fasting can also be a huge benefit and is something I do daily.

My BIL imports stuff from Asia - he insists he's not on steroids/testosterone - I call B.S. He is 56 and has put on 30 lbs of muscle and works out 2x a day. He looks incredible but has become very unstable (angry). Just waiting for the phone call...

In response to the OP. Just go get a blood test. Easy to see your testosterone levels.
Then decide if testosterone therapy is good for you or if you just need a fun blue pill before sex.
Taking the shots is kinda a lifetime choice. But over age 60 your going to be in a decline regardless. If you are active fit and still have energy and muscle then I doubt your levels are low.

He should lose his medical license.

My experience on this. I'm 60 and a few years back went to the doc with similar complaints. he ran full blood work as that had been a few years since my last run of that.

My testosterone was very low and my A1C was higher than it should have been. Point is I knew I was 'off' in more than 1 way but made no assumptions other than I need to go the doctor, get a complete physical with blood work.

I am now on a daily topical 'Testim' generic at a very low dose. I'm now back to where I should be at my age.

The new wife isn't so new anymore. Things are still good but it has been a few years.

Let me know if you're in town and I'll do the same if I'm our west.

Are you referring the hormones or the diet? I had just finished a second round of blood tests although testosterone was not part of them. I just asked out of curiosity since a few friends of mine are getting testosterone. His diet recommendation was based on me being in perfect heath with only my cholesterol being low.

I see the cardiologist because my father died of a heart attack at 43 and my brother had a heart attack at 57. I'm 52 and in much better health than either of them. My cardiologist is a fellow cyclist and told me I don't need a cardiologist but I go just to be safe.

As you age Testosterone turns against you and causes Prostrate cancer...that came from my Dads Oncologist.

So you wana bump your Testosterone levels..

I'm in Flat's identical situation but 59. My thought is that it will accelerate the growth of all kinds of bad stuff that aging folks are prone to anyway, so no. I did have libido issues due to my neuropathy meds. Stopped them, pain wasn't much worse. Sex drive returned.

Diet - Any cardiologist that recommends fatty red meat and fewer vegetables is a quack. Most docs get very little education in nutrition. Sounds like you are doing well. Keep it up!

At 63 my T levels are still ok and my little buddy is still in the game. I do notice less stamina on a very physically demanding task or a long hike to a local mountain peak. I guess I am not 20 anymore.

I discussed this with my Doc at the last physical and she was against T supplements for me, but suggested other natural ways to improve energy. Eat real food, get plenty of exercise, lifting free weights 3x per week, all have a natural effect on our energy levels and hormone production.

fasting increases testosteron naturally and doesn't have the side effects (death) that taking pills or getting shots does.

I tried the Gel for a few months. Doc checked PSA levels often. Started to rise right away. I bailed, not worth the risk......I've just accepted the fact I don't have the drive I used to have.....

Your testosterone level is supposed to go down as you age. Peaks as a teen to your 20's.

Testosterone in your 40's if clinically low? Yeah, sure, take some testosterone.

In your 50's? Errrr... probably not a good idea.

In your 60's? Not a great idea.

And define low... you may be low yet completely normal for your age...

Testosterone increases risk of stroke, heart disease, elevated cholesterol, worsens atheroschlerosis, BPH, prostate cancer, etc...

For the OP, no way I hell you should even consider it with prostate cancer, absolute contraindication...

Prostate CA is treated with testosterone blockers... Taking testosterone is like feeing the cancer...

For me the 'cure' is also eating better, sensibly and doing cardio regularly. In the past I had very low T levels even for my age. It was affecting my mood, general overall feeling, long bouts of depression, etc.

So to be clear, I am now maintaining a level near or at what is reasonable for a relatively healthy 60 yr old guy. Mentally and physically much better all 'round. I have mine monitored twice a year is addition to other blood work to ensure the train doesn't jump off into the ditch.

Sounds like the answer is no which is what I thought . I learned a few things so thanks guys .

I've been on a daily gel for @ 4 years now. My T level was @ 200ish which is at the very bottom of the scale and now with the medicine, I'm about 450-550ish. It has definitely helped in the bedroom and now I'm leery of quitting it because my wife would not be happy.. lol. But I do miss a few days here and there on purpose.

Testosterone promotes prostate problems, I am told.

Any Dr that advises fatty meat and fewer vegetables and grains is a quack.

Testosterone boosters are a very nice idea, man. I used to take them a couple of months ago and they really helped me return my "power" in bed. But you should be very careful. First of all, speak to your GP or with a pharmacist and ask about which medicines would be better for you and your organism. Study all the articles on the internet, as I did and only after that, you can choose some pills and take them. Because this is not a very safe treatment and you don't want to harm your body. https://www.docarzt.com - This article helped me understand which supplements are the best ones.

I believe that I've also read that getting testosterone via shots/pills/gel/whatever increases risk of heart attack.

My doc told me that when he said no to T therapy. It can exacerbate all manner of prostate problems, including cancer.

My MDs have suggested that the risks outweigh the benefits for most unless your T is approaching zero. Their advice is to regenerate your own levels with those cliche yet proven methods:

Eat a well balanced diet of fresh fruit, fresh vegetables, and whole meats.
Lower your BMI
Get plenty of daily exercise including both cardio and weight training.
Get plenty of sleep with consistent bed and wake times.
Lower your stress levels by taking time for yourself.
Date women 1/2 your age.