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Shaun @ Tru6 07-23-2019 01:53 PM

Asking an interviewee about past brushes with the law
 
I'm hiring another assistant. One of the applicants scored Expert on the Indeed "Hard Working" test, which is rare. Most just score Completed, the lowest.

Found two arrests, one in 2013 for a straight warrant (no idea what that means) and also driving without a license.

Second was a year ago for possession with intent to distribute a Class D drug. Marijuana is legal here now.

Found a baby registry in February of this year too.

His resume says he's been working at the Goree House for the last few years, Goree House, which would indicate he's turning his life around.

What questions do you ask him to see if he really has?

Icemaster 07-23-2019 02:11 PM

Assuming you're staying in the realm of what you're legally allowed to ask...

Character questions that are open ended. Get him into a conversation around principles, how he handles conflicts, situational questions i.e. when he brings up a situation or event, look for the opportunity to ask if he'd do anything differently the second time around. See if he's learning.

I'd want to try to find out where he draws his lines on behaviors and what's most important to him personally, that might give you a view into motivations and how far he's willing to bend/break rules or laws to get them.

Biggest thing is to make it conversational and get him talking as much as possible, people never cease to amaze me with how much they'll tell you with the tiniest bit of encouragement. From there, trust your gut.

dad911 07-23-2019 02:20 PM

Are you allowed to Drug test?

KFC911 07-23-2019 03:16 PM

I freakin' hate interviews that lasts more than 10 hrs....lots of stories :)

KFC911 07-23-2019 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 10534235)
Are you allowed to Drug test?

Bogart = Failure ;)

porsche4life 07-23-2019 03:22 PM

I’d do a little memory refresher on what types of questions you can ask and then just be honest with the dude. Hey I see you have some record, what can you tell me.


Then see what he says? If he’s on the straight and narrow then you may have a guy whos willing to bust his ass now, and will be loyal to you for giving him a chance.

My dad hired a few guys with records and they were hard working honest guys, who had just made some stupid mistakes in their past.

Baz 07-23-2019 03:34 PM

Know you didn't ask, Shaun, but I would think some references would assist in the process.

Hope it works out for both parties....

stealthn 07-23-2019 03:39 PM

Ask him if he is willing to get a police background check and see if he cops to all crimes

Shaun @ Tru6 07-23-2019 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Icemaster (Post 10534227)
Assuming you're staying in the realm of what you're legally allowed to ask...

Character questions that are open ended. Get him into a conversation around principles, how he handles conflicts, situational questions i.e. when he brings up a situation or event, look for the opportunity to ask if he'd do anything differently the second time around. See if he's learning.

I'd want to try to find out where he draws his lines on behaviors and what's most important to him personally, that might give you a view into motivations and how far he's willing to bend/break rules or laws to get them.

Biggest thing is to make it conversational and get him talking as much as possible, people never cease to amaze me with how much they'll tell you with the tiniest bit of encouragement. From there, trust your gut.

Excellent advice Pete, thank you. I like this.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-23-2019 04:35 PM

Dad, I'm not sure as prerequisite for hiring. I'd have to check with MA on that.

Sid, I like being direct too but I think that's plan b. I hear you on your dad's experience.

Baz, good advice, I will definitely be asking for references.

Good idea Bob and could be part of plan b.

Tobra 07-23-2019 05:38 PM

Review what you can't ask, put him at ease, have a little conversation, ask probing, open ended questions, trust your instincts.

In case you want to review your talk, what are the rules for recording in MA, one party or two party consent? Video can be very revealing.

LWJ 07-23-2019 06:25 PM

I applaud your open mind. I used to work in manufacturing. Our best employees were ex-cons.

Everybody is different. Good luck.

madcorgi 07-23-2019 08:10 PM

I'd try a different approach. If he passes muster in all your other categories, I'd hire him.

A reformed criminal is going to tell you he's reformed. An unreformed criminal is going to tell you the exact same thing. So, why ask?

My experience has been that people who know that you know will sometimes bring it up themselves and present an explanation, which is fine. Other people who now that you know will not bring it up, but will work to show you they are worth your trust. That's better.

Sooner or later 07-23-2019 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Tobra (Post 10534476)
Review what you can't ask, put him at ease, have a little conversation, ask probing, open ended questions, trust your instincts.

In case you want to review your talk, what are the rules for recording in MA, one party or two party consent? Video can be very revealing.

Two party

Jeff Alton 07-23-2019 08:56 PM

Up here you can ask for a criminal record check...

Sooner or later 07-23-2019 09:00 PM

Be damn careful that you are not singling this guy out from all other employees. If you drug test him you better be drug testing everyone or you open yourself up to litigation. Also, most recommend drug testing be made only after making the job offer.

Be consistent in your hiring process. Drug test, background check, etc.

flipper35 07-24-2019 07:12 AM

References will confirm they worked where they said they did. Not much more.

Tobra 07-24-2019 10:58 AM

Did they work there and are they eligible for rehire

Shaun @ Tru6 07-24-2019 05:16 PM

Interviewing this Tuesday.

May be moot, I got an email today from a young man who has entry-level experience with vintage Mercedes. He emailed me from my web site so he gets major points for that.

Icemaster 07-24-2019 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10534390)
Excellent advice Pete, thank you. I like this.

Most welcome mon ami, and thank you also. Hope it works for you, let me know how it plays out.

KFC911 07-25-2019 02:08 AM

I usually attach my arrest record as a four page addemdum to my resume...

'cause I don't lie :)

craigster59 07-25-2019 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by KC911 (Post 10535834)
I usually attach my arrest record as a four page addemdum to my resume...

'cause I don't lie :)

And come in reeking of weed because, you know, you're an "open book". :D

Shaun @ Tru6 07-25-2019 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by LWJ (Post 10534528)
I applaud your open mind. I used to work in manufacturing. Our best employees were ex-cons.

Everybody is different. Good luck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigster59 (Post 10536134)
And come in reeking of weed because, you know, you're an "open book". :D


That reminds me of one of my old assistants.

I think one of the best things about owning a business is being able to make a positive impact on people's lives. Had an assistant with a serious drug past. Nicest guy kid, looked like Mr. Rogers, had a great attitude and wanted to learn but was terrible at most tasks. Worked with him for 3 months, lot of mentoring, but finally had to let him go. I see him at Home Depot (works there) now and again.

Old Sailor 07-25-2019 10:58 AM

Ask him if he can pass a drug test "right now" ......

It's a question we ask those asking for pre-trial diversion or drug court as opposed to just facing the judge........it's our "weed out" question......

dad911 07-25-2019 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10534216)
I'm hiring another assistant. ......Marijuana is legal here now........

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun @ Tru6 (Post 10534395)
Dad, I'm not sure as prerequisite for hiring. .......

If it's legal, and you don't drug test, I'd be willing to relocate. I have "onine" oven wiring experience, boxter spec racer prep, early 911 suspension/race and 3.6 swap experience..........SmileWavy

1990C4S 07-25-2019 12:41 PM

FYI: when applicants ask 'where do I go for my drug test?', they are actually asking 'do you drug test?'....

Shaun @ Tru6 07-25-2019 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dad911 (Post 10536322)
If it's legal, and you don't drug test, I'd be willing to relocate. I have "onine" oven wiring experience, boxter spec racer prep, early 911 suspension/race and 3.6 swap experience..........SmileWavy

How about we start with dinner first?SmileWavy

Shaun @ Tru6 07-25-2019 04:21 PM

Have gotten a few new resumes in today and two are actually excited (long, detailed cover letters) about the position. Next week could be a good week.

Shaun @ Tru6 07-30-2019 12:50 PM

Interviewed 3 young men today, one I like a lot, another that is decent, and the focus of this thread, well, a nice guy but not cut out for this kind of work and I think he might have been high. There was something a little off about him, but very personable.

When asked about the drug possession, he said he was in a car with other guys and it was theirs. No reason to doubt him other than I am sure that sentence has been uttered literally hundreds of thousands of times in response to ones like mine.

Thanks for all the good advice on this situation, I appreciate the help.


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